[ RadSafe ] OT: Global Warming

Tue May 20 11:54:58 CDT 2014

According to numerous sources there has not been any global warming for
approximately 18 yrs.

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:16 AM, KARAM, PHILIP <PHILIP.KARAM at nypd.org>wrote:

> I know there's data for a short period of time. But even 30 years' worth
> of data isn't going to answer questions that play out over centuries or
> millennia or longer.
>
> At the moment the Earth appears to be warming - which it has been doing
> more or less for about 10,000 years since the last glacial retreat - but
> the last couple of million years have been abnormally cold from the
> viewpoint of the history of the earth. So if the Earth is warmer (or
> colder) this year than it was last year can we make any claims about what
> that means for a century or two from now? For that matter, if the last
> decade - or two or three decades - has been warmer (or colder) than the
> previous ones can we make any predictions about long-term climate change?
> Not really, because we're not sure if we're stuck in a random (and
> expected) fluctuation in climate or if it portends a longer-term trend.
>  Thirty years of data - no matter how high-quality - simply isn't enough to
> make any firm predictions.
>
> As one example - the Little Ice Age last a few centuries. Were that to
> happen today we'd be desperately pumping CO2 into the atmosphere to try to
> prevent glaciers from bulldozing New York and Chicago. But it turned out to
> be a temporary fluctuation in earth's temperature. Similarly, the Medieval
> Warm Period lasted for over 300 years - we'd have called this a period of
> global warming - ironically ending with the Little Ice Age. Again - 30
> years of the highest-quality data during either of these periods would have
> given us a completely misleading view of the climate. And thirty years of
> high-quality data today cannot tell us if we are inside of a temporary
> fluctuation (like either of these two periods) or experiencing a long-term
> (millennia or longer) trend in temperature.
>
>
> P. Andrew Karam, PhD, CHP
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu [mailto:
> radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of JPreisig at aol.com
> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 2:39 PM
> To: radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] OT: Global Warming
>
> Radsafe,
>
>       High quality data in Earth Rotation/wobble  and Atmospheric Angular
> Momentum exist since 1984.  See Goddard Space  Flight Center's VLBI Website.
> Earth thermal data, maybe   also????  Plot the data and do data fitting and
> see the results.  No  need to Cherry pick, Karam.
>
>      Joe Preisig.
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/19/2014 10:46:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> PHILIP.KARAM at nypd.org writes:
>
> The  problem is that we can't look at ANY data from just a few years -
> even from an  entire decade - and make definitive statements about what's
> going to happen  over the next century or longer. And we can't really
> cherry-pick only those  data that support what we think (or would like) to
> be true. If this trend  continues for the next 10-20 years then I'd be
> willing to believe it's more  than just a slight fluctuation.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu
> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of
> JPreisig at aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 2:34 PM
> To:  radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu
> Subject: [ RadSafe ] OT: Global  Warming
>
> Hey All,
>
> KISS (Keep It Simple  S....).
>
> Last year the ice volume at one of the  Earth poles  started to become more
> icy.
>
>
> When the Earth poles resolidify, less water is  available for the Earth
> mid-latitudes and droughts occur.
>
> And when the ice  caps melt (1998???), water is  available in the
> mid-latitudes and  droughts occur less.
>
>
> Joe  Preisig
>
>
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