[ RadSafe ] Space Travel Risks from Radiation - let's not forget dose RATE!

[Miller, Mark L]

As  Mohan pointed out, not only is "the devil's in the dose", it's ALSO "the devil's in the dose RATE".  Studies underway in Japan will underscore that the evacuations there were likely unnecessary because of the outdated LNT and its dependence on the ONLY dose paradigm (to say nothing about extrapolating data far below/beyond scientific credibility).
Mark

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From: Doss, Mohan [mailto:Mohan.Doss at fccc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Space Travel Risks from Radiation

Dear All,
    The mistake of this study is that they gave the mice in less than a minute the radiation dose the astronauts would receive in a few years. This would be fine if our body did not respond to the stresses and damages it notices. Our body does respond to the damages it notices, repairing the damages and upping the defenses, which would protect it from future similar damages as well as from naturally occurring damages. Giving radiation dose to mice in a short time does not allow these defensive actions to occur.
    Giving the 2-3 years worth of radiation dose in less than a minute is like studying the effect of daily use of a sleeping pill, by giving several hundred sleeping pills at the same time. This is not a realistic way of determining the effect of taking a single sleeping pill every day.
    In view of this, the extension of the reported study's conclusion to astronauts is questionable.  We should wait for proper studies with long-term irradiation to be completed, before drawing a conclusion.
    With best regards,
                                              Mohan -----Original Message-----
From: radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu<mailto:radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at agni.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of Brennan, Mike (DOH)
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [ RadSafe ] Space Travel Risks from Radiation

I like that the Wall Street Journal pays attention to science issues.

I think the solution to the radiation problem between here and Mars is, in part, a space elevator.  If you decrease the cost of launch you can increase the mass you send, which means you can send more shielding.

Alternatively, you can make shield that astronauts can wear on their heads.  Nice lead ones would be particularly stylish.

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From: radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu<mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu> [mailto:radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu] On Behalf Of H.Estabrooks at cns.doe.gov<mailto:H.Estabrooks at cns.doe.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 7:15 AM
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Subject: [ RadSafe ] Space Travel Risks from Radiation

This from the WSJ:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/study-deep-space-radiation-could-damage-astronauts-brains-1430503356

A little confusing.  I thought the end of the paragraph that starts "to test the neural effects" was referring to residents of Colorado.  ;-)

Bates Estabrooks
Y-12 NSC
Radiological Control Engineer

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