[ RadSafe ] Surveilance Frequency

[JOHN.RICH at sargentlundy.com]

Henric, 
Thx for the input.

Since this is a client question , I can't really say too much.  However, 
the question arose from a discussion with people who had read regulations 
and convinced themselves that the vault had to be classified as a 
temporary low level waste storage facility, and then it followed that if 
it was a low level waste storage facility, it needed all the appropriate 
surveys (and facilities, etc.) 

We tried to convince them that regardless of what it was named, since 
nothing changed inside, it could essentially be sealed up.  Then came the 
usual question, "What does everyone else do?"

Warning: rant follows.
BOR (beginning of rant)
A lot of new people entering the industry have lost all semblance of 
common sense.  The regulations are treated as absolutes with no 
consideration given to reality. They refuse to accept that power plants 
are electricity factories, not laboratories.  They refuse to accept the 
fact that the design basis is not reality; its a design basis so that if 
the plant can cope with it, hopefully it can cope with anything else that 
happens.  The design basis is not the only thing that can happen, so 
sometimes I run into a situation where the comment is its not in our 
design basis so we don't have to recognize it until the 'resident' tells 
us to,  etc., etc., etc.  I know that Aristotle complained about the 
hopelessness of the kids of his time, and maybe there's some of that here, 
but @$#%$*&%$, doesn't anybody think anymore?
EOR (end of rant)
 
John Rich
Manager/Consultant 2
Nuclear Power Technologies
Sargent & Lundy
55 East Monroe Street | Chicago, IL 60603
office: 1-312-269-3768 | mobile: 1-561-676-8144
email :john.rich at sargentlundy.com



From:   <henric.bolander at vattenfall.com>
To:     <radsafe at health.phys.iit.edu>, 
Date:   08/10/2016 08:53 AM
Subject:        Re: [ RadSafe ] Surveilance Frequency
Sent by:        radsafe-bounces at health.phys.iit.edu



Hi John!

I am curious about why somebody want to do a survey inside the vault if 
there is no work/inspection planned there. It is not in line with ALARA 
philosophy. It would be sufficient to do the dose rate surveys outside for 
that kind of area. Perhaps it is of interest to take dose rate 
measurements to keep track of the decay? In that case one can use 
telescopic poles at a safe distance.

To answer your questions:
1. We have a fixed schedule for surveys and in this case it is performed 
twice a year. (For that kind of equipment it is stored in a locked 
building with controlled entrance).
2. No, dose rates are taken outside the fence or "building"


Best regards
Henric 

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Subject: [ RadSafe ] Surveilance Frequency

Radsafers,

The question are,
1. How often  do you have somebody do a dose rate surveillance for stable 
areas such as old steam generator storage vaults, ISFSIs, etc.?
2. Do you do anything other than a walk outside the fence?

The reason for asking the question is that it was suggested that these 
stable facilities needed frequent exterior AND interior surveys.  The Regs 
don't seem to require active surveys after the stable facility is in 
place, sealed, an d stable. 

thx in advance  - -jmr



John Rich
Manager/Consultant 2
Nuclear Power Technologies
Sargent & Lundy
55 East Monroe Street | Chicago, IL 60603
office: 1-312-269-3768 | mobile: 1-561-676-8144 email 
:john.rich at sargentlundy.com 
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