Re: Franz Schoenhofer

["Jeffery White" <jeffwendywhite@worldnet.att.net>]

This list used to help me with my work.  It no longer does.  Sorry, Melissa,
to see this happen to a valuable tool.  Maybe in the future it will become
what it once was.  I am unsubscribing.  Too much space being taken up for
drivel.

Jeff White
-----Original Message-----
From: Magnu96196@aol.com <Magnu96196@aol.com>
To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
Date: Friday, April 07, 2000 6:54 PM
Subject: Franz Schoenhofer


>Mr. Schoenhofer,
>
>    Seeing how you just plead you forgot most of chemistry and I want to
>point out your overreaction, I won't place the reply to you, read no
further.
>[your comment below].   Organic is not all you forgot, you forgot how to be
>civil too.    And seeing how Ms. Weiner was polite enough to write a civil
>note with non-hostile comments [her comment below also].   What is your
deal.
>  I was over to Vienna not that long ago, and it was one of the most rude
>cities that I have been to in Europe----and your not an exception to that
>finding.     You don't happen to work for the IAEA do you, the same place
>that has a bunch of Y-12 nuke folks on loan that don't want the fluoride
>compound problems exposed in Oak Ridge?.
>
>   Perhaps instead of this shout down tactics you appear to like so well,
you
>might comment how better to make a statement about the CN-  radical
connected
>with methyl cyanide, aka acetylnitrile.  Ms. Weiner was so kind as to.
>Folks around here don't always use the most correct
terminology----------but
>this is also not the chemistry 4000 PHd course list either.  What is the
big
>deal about each little comment I make, dissected to the N -th degree?  Did
I
>agree to defend a Phd Dissertation around here somewhere?   Don't think so.
>
>    Most of the toxic information comment comes right from Hawleys.  Ms.
>Weiner even admits that HCN, aka hydrogen cyanide, will form to an extent
>from acetylnitrile and that she too could have been more clear.  Simple
folks
>call compounds with the CN- in the formula cyanide compounds.
>
>    Most of your rant is pure I don't know what--------explicatives
deleted.
> You could chose to be helpful---------or you can choose to act like a very
>impolite Austrian.
>
>Just my opinion, and you should ignore anything I write in the future.  Get
>over it.
>
>Jim Phelps, near the Superfund site of Oak Ridge
>
>==============================
>Schoenhofer comment:
>
>"REFRAIN FROM ANSWERING TO ME. I AM A CHEMIST BY EDUCATION WHO FORGOT MOST
>OF ORGANIC CHEMISTRY, BUT THE ISSUES YOU COMMENTED ON ARE SO BASIC AND YOUR
>COMMENTS ARE SO EASILY IDENTIFYABLE AS NONSENSE THAT EVEN I CAN DO IT. I
>think and propose to other RADSAFERs to ignore this thread, especially
>since the lawyer according to my latest information is just a lawyer
>talking a lot and having something different in mind."
>
>========================================
>Weiner comment:
>
>Subj:    Re: RADSAFE digest 3077--------TN Illness----acetonitrile
>Date:   4/7/00 10:17:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time
>From:   ruth_weiner@email.msn.com (ruth_weiner)
>To: Magnu96196@aol.com
>
>Yes I am a good enough chemist to know that acetonitrile (a) will partially
>ionize to CN- and (b) will decompose to release HCN and (c) I was certainly
>not implying that it was like table salt.  It's nasty stuff, and I should
>have said so, I guess.  But the juxtaposition of "cyanide" with
>"acetonitrile" is misleading.
>
>By the way, acetonitrile is a far weaker acid than   HCN.
>
>Ruth Weiner
>
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