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Re: background vs man-made emmissions
Hi Sandy
I can't give you a yes/no answer. I think that there is some validity to the Tooth
Project's theories. I'm not a scientist, that should be evident by now (psych BA,
History MA), so I can't argue all the fine points with you, tho' I give it my best
shot.
Before I came to this list the scientist I mostly referred to on technical issue was
(and is)
Dave Lochbaum, nuclear safety engineer for the Union of Concerned Scientists. His
statement to me about 2 years ago, when I asked him about the TF project was that he
felt that their
hypothesis was interesting and needed testing. (i'm paraphrasing). He never gave me the
"radiation is radiaition and thats it" position.
It seems to me that radiation is not just radiation is some of it gets concentrated in
different body parts like teeth and bones, or thyroid.
I've also been priviledged to host several Hibakusha (Japanese A-Bomb survivors), so I
now from them what long-term doses of radiation does in the form of latent cancers.
I have no problem discussing with you looking over the different parts of the nuke
cycle in order to make the whole procedure safer, and I'm all for that. If we in the
anti-nuke movement can't shut 'em down and replace 'em with (to us) safer forms of
energy production, then of course we are all for safety and better safety. Its one of
UNPLUG Salem's missions.
I'm sorry if I kind of walked around your question. But thats where I am right now.
peace
norm
Sandy Perle wrote:
> > > Simple answer: comparing background vs. reactor emissions is apples vs.
> > > oranges.
> > >
> > > Background
> > > - is made up of mostly long-lived products
> > > - generally disperses throughout soft tissues
> > > - is something that humans have become accustomed to over millions of years.
> > >
> > > Reactor emissions
> > > - is made up of both long-lived AND short-lived products
> > > - does different things to the body (attacks thyroid cells, attacks bone/bone
> > > marrow cells)
> > > - is very new, only since 1945
> > >
> > > Thus, health effects of each will be different.
>
> Norm,
>
> With all due respect, the above position is absolutely ludicrous. It's
> difficult for me to comprehend anyone who uses a little common
> sense to see the folly in the argument. Radiation is radiation, and
> dose is dose. Photons, beta neutron and alpha emissions are the
> same whether they derive from natural or man-made sources. Co-
> 60 is emitted from a reactor, yet it too is used in therapeutic
> applications to save lives. Based on the argument above, it too
> should cause death and/or other adverse effects.
>
> It appears to me that when an individual who is so highly charged
> and is fighting against something that they may or may not truly
> believe in, when they have some emotional event in their life, or
> something that attacks the very root of their paradigm, they resort
> to comments and arguments as you put forth. You state that this
> is the position of the Tooth fairy project. Very well. I ask you to tell
> me whether or not you subscribe to their argument as well. If you
> do, then I see no further point in debating the finer points as to
> what is real and what is not real, when it comes to determining
> which parts of the nuclear cycle may need fine tuning, which parts
> are perfectly safe, and which parts need to be changed totally.
>
> I await your response.
>
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