Re: Why are you posting to RADSAFE?????

[GlennACarlson@aol.com]

Does anyone want to take credit for the following Radsafe post? 

Glenn A. Carlson, P.E.
glennacarlson@aol.com

Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 00:51:30 +0100 (MET)
From: 
Subject: RE: One last comment on Irradiation

"Dear Patricia,

Your mail is worth to be discussed - though I personally do not want to do
it any more. I do not know, how long you have followed radsafe, but to me it
seems that most radsafers regard it as a forum to get rid of aggressions,
especially towards the US government, national organisations like EPA, DOE,
NRC.... and international organisations like the ICRP, IAEA, WHO.
"Unfortunately" about 10 percent of the messages are really excellent and a
further maybe 20 percent are at least interesting and acceptable, so I do
not want to unsubscribe. 

The attitude of some persons is difficult to stand. As soon as you send a
message which is not in accordance with the opinion of some opinion leaders
you receive several replies, which show you that you are not competent, have
an unacceptable point of view, that you are not in the possession of the
absolute truth about nuclear power and so on. These people do not understand
that they are not much different in their attitude to another opinion than
the groups they accuse to act that way. They do not even recognize that
their behaviour makes the public to oppose their views. If you are not
US-American than of course your comments cannot be taken serious at all and
you receive mails which more or less tell you that you should not open your
mouth because you are not American and that your comment is biased and of
typical European arrogance. I only summarize what I usually receive.

I wanted to let you know my sympathy and do not give up - I assure you that
the number of positive personal mails one receives is usually greater the
negatives to radsafe.

Best regards, all best wishes for Christmas and the New Year!"

> Subj:  Why are you posting to RADSAFE?????
>  Date:    4/30/2000 7:26:35 PM Central Daylight Time
>  From:    lavelyp@uclink4.berkeley.edu (Paul Lavely)
>  
>  The following is NOT a Flame. It is a commentary on how I feel about 
>  Norm, his daring to ask us for information, and how he has been 
>  treated.
>  
>  How dare anyone ask this gentleman "WHY are YOU posting to radsafe?"
>  
>  The Health Physics Society bemoans the fact that some in the public 
>  don't get "our" message, the HPS has a public information section, we 
>  all state that education is part of our goal. Yet - when the first 
>  person who does not share our information or views pops their head up 
>  on radsafe we tell him to "declare yourself" and demand to know "what 
>  you aim to [do with the information]?" We go on to accuse him of 
>  getting "statements for your anti-nuclear business by
>  distorting them?"
>  
>  Is anyone other than Norm expected to tell us the WHY of a posting.
>  
>  Well here is our opportunity to make Norm so uncomfortable that he 
>  leaves and he leaves with the opinion that we are not only uncaring 
>  we are just a club to which he is not welcome. After he leaves we can 
>  get back to wishing for a dialog with those who we believe are in 
>  need of the information we have to give.
>  
>  Was I required to tell the radsafe audience "why I wanted to know of 
>  others experiences with digging for "lost" rad materials?" How did 
>  you know that this was not just my secret way to get information that 
>  was harmful to other licensees so that I could release it (after 
>  distorting it of course) to make them look bad or incompetent? Is it 
>  that my signature line (Paul Lavely <lavelyp@uclink4.berkeley.edu> 
>  RSO and Director Office of Radiation Safety at the University of 
>  California - Berkeley) has axiomatically included me in some secret 
>  handshake club.
>  
>  Has anyone here seen the movie Starman. One person demands that they 
>  stop trying to hunt this "visitor" down and reminds them that "we 
>  invited him." Isn't that what we did here? Didn't we invite those 
>  like Norm?
>  
>  I am more than disappointed in our hospitality.
>  
>  Finally, if you do not wish to be a part of these discussions with 
>  the Norms of the world then just do not read them.
>  
>  Paul Lavely <lavelyp@uclink4.berkeley.edu>
>  RSO and Director Office of Radiation Safety
>  **********************************************
>  
>  
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