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Re: Graphite Quiz: Re: Chapelcross -(2)



Dear Emil:



I believe that:



1) Graphite was chosen as the moderator since the

original reactors were graphite moderated and it

easier to work with than heavy water.  Graphite is

really not that flammable (try burning it). Without

going into all of the physics involved it requires

very high graphite internal heat to produce the

reaction 

C + 02    -------   CO.  Graphite would also allow for

gas cooling (900 degrees C), which is much more

efficient than water (300 degrees C) when it comes to

producing power for electicity.  (going back here and

I quote from a 1949 AEC document, "The original plans

for the 1000 kW Oak Ridge Reactor, made in 1942,

called for the eventual use of Helium gas in order to

cool the production reactors or piles...because of

insufficient helium, the Oak Ridge Reactor was

graphite moderated, air cooled with uranium metal clad

in aluminum tubes.....This was to serve as the pilot

plant for large scale Pu production plants and make Pu

for experimental purposes since there was little

available.....because of difficulties with air as a

coolant in a large scale reactor, the designs were

changed to water as the coolant with graphite as the

moderator........") So, the UK and later France chose

rather brillantly to use CO2 as the coolant for their

earliest reactors.  And it has worked quite well for

50 years.



2) Magnesium alloy makes sense since it has a higher

thermal conductivity(0.4 cal/sec-cm) and specific heat

(0.32 cal/gm) and lower density (1.5 gm/cc) than

aluminum (0.25 cal/sec-cm, 0.26 cal/gm, 2.4 gm/cc). In

an alloy form Mg is quite strong, less brittle and has

less characteristic heat warping problems than

aluminum and other metals....(Just look at all of the

expensive Mg alloy bicycles that replaced Al and Fe

ones).



3) Magnesium does react with O2 in the air.  However,

since it is an alkaline earth metal, it is much slower

than Na, K or Li.  The Mg alloy with Al etc. is much

slower yet.  As as a precaution, CO2, N2 or Helium

would kept over the Mg alloy to prevent this oxidation

from occuring.  Bear in mind that Zr at high

temperatures can also react with O2 in the air so we

might keep CO2 over it too.



I could keep going on here, but MAGNOX in UK and

France was a logical progression toward a highly

advanced and very efficient and extremely safe 

inert gas cooled, carbon moderated nuclear power

plant.

Therefore, as a teacher, the answer to your quiz

question is obviously h) None of the above is true.



Paul W. Shafer---Physics Teacher and former Nuclear

Radiation Protection Engineer LaCrosse BWR and

Pathfinder SBWR.

--- Emil Murat <kerrembaev@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Greetings,

> 

> 1.1  If I were them, I would be keeping my eye on

> moderator as well.

> 

> 1.2 Even, during this particular event, there was NO

> air-oxygen introduced into the moderator. 

> 

> However,

> 

> 2.1   Isn't it this a strange combination? 

> 2.1.1 Magnesium-Graphite.

> 

> 

> 3.1

> 

> Here comes the quiz: Reactor Designers.

> 

> 

>  Why did they/he/she choose those materials?  

> 

> a) Magnesium has a pretty look :-) 

> b) It is slim = has light weight. :-) 

> c) Both graphite and magnesium are flammables = 

>    temperature + free oxygen.

> d) In Great Britain: Zirconium is an import product,

> 

>    Magnesium is an export product.

> e) The reactor designer wanted to be a plane

> engineer 

>    rather than a nuclear.

> f) A, B and E

> g) C and D

> 

> 

> Good luck, fellas!

> 

> 

> Emil.

> 

> 

> >>>>>>>>>>

> From the original message:

> 

> > > Emergency workers were called in and carbon

> > dioxide was sprayed

> > > over the basket to ensure it did not catch fire.

> 

> 

> >>>>>>>>>>>>

> From: Paul William Shafer 

> Subject: Chapelcross 

> >>

> It seems to me that Chapelcross is a MAGNOX graphite

> CO2 cooled reactor like the ones 

> ...

> ... 

> Magnesium canned oxide fuel may explain why

> CO2 was sprayed over the spent fuel to prevent a

> fire

> from occuring.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From:	Susan Gawarecki [SMTP:loc@ICX.NET]

> > > 

> > > Britain Nuclear Accident Probed

> > > 

> > > LONDON (AP) via NewsEdge Corporation  - 

> > > Spent fuel rods were accidentally dropped onto

> the

> > reactor floor of a

> > > nuclear power plant in Scotland last week, its

> > operator said Sunday.

> > > 

> .........

> .........

> > > 

> > > Emergency workers were called in and carbon

> > dioxide was sprayed

> > > over the basket to ensure it did not catch fire.

> > > 

> 

> 

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