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RE: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality from other cancers



Must be second-hand smoke. :-)



Jack Earley

Radiological Engineer





-----Original Message-----

From: Rad health [mailto:healthrad@hotmail.com]

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:11 PM

To: jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu; maury@WEBTEXAS.COM

Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Subject: RE: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality from

other cancers





Jim,



How can it be that even now, 15% of primary lung cancers arise in never 

smokers.



15% of 160,000 = many more than essentially none



Don Smith



>From: "Jim Muckerheide" <jmuckerheide@cnts.wpi.edu>

>To: "maury" <maury@WEBTEXAS.COM>, "Rad health" <healthrad@HOTMAIL.COM>

>CC: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

>Subject: RE: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality from other 

>cancers

>Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 22:21:54 -0500

>

>Maury,

>

>As already presented and discussed, these are supposedly lung cancers

>(including metastatic), but there is essentially NO lung cancer before

>smoking. No such results are possible.  It's just rationalization to

>defend the rad protection "mission" to extract funds from by producing

>fear in a gullible public. EPA had to do this when it was pointed out

>that their rad limits were orders of magnitude more stringent than the

>release and exposure to natural radon.

>

>Suddenly the "Environmental Protection Agency" went from protecting the

>environment from the ravages of man to protecting man from the ravages

>of the environment. Never underestimate the creativity and diligence of

>a bureaucracy with enough money to perpetuate itself. :-)

>

>Regards, Jim

>============

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From:	maury

>Sent:	Wed 16-Jan-02 6:48 PM

>To:	Rad health

>Cc:	radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

>Subject:	Re: Lung cancer mortality from radon versus mortality

>from other cancers

>

>Then, since you suggest a few examples, surprise us. Provide a few

>numbers just as examples to support your point - and how do you untangle

>such cases

>as the class: brain cancer. When one has lung cancer, that cancer often

>subsequently appears in the brain as well as elsewhere in the body. Is

>this

>still, as physicians typically refer to it, lung cancer? How are these

>data untangled.? In any event, you have asserted 19,000 cancer deaths

>from

>radon; in your view what are the comparable numbers for brain, breast,

>prostate, and bone?

>Thanks,

>Maury Siskel     maury@webtexas.com

>----------

>LNT got your goat? Well, take a short break and think how nice it is

>that wrinkles don't hurt ....

>===============================================

>Rad health wrote:

>

> > Patricia,

> >

> > At the recent ARRST/CRCPD International Radon Meeting

>http://www.aarst.org/

> > in Daytona Beach, Dr. Field pointed out that if the BEIR VI

>predictions are

> > accurate.  These 19,000 cancer deaths from radon exceed the total

>number of

> > cancer deaths for many forms of cancers.  You may be surprised if you

>check

> > how many cancer deaths there are from the following cancers: brain,

>breast,

> > prostate, bone, etc. each year.

> >

> > Don Smith

> >

> > >From: "Patricia Milligan" <PXM@nrc.gov>

> >

> > Possibly, quite possibly, the radiological and chemical insults to our

> > bodies over the thousands of years is what directed our course of

>evolution.

> >   One would reasonably expect, given LNT and the large number of

>people in

>

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