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Re: article on Moab Utah Uranium Tailings
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Von: Kent, Michael D. <Michael.Kent@nmcco.com>
An: radsafe@list. vanderbilt. edu (E-mail) <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
Datum: Freitag, 14. Juni 2002 22:07
Betreff: RE: article on Moab Utah Uranium Tailings
>1. What would the potential release from the tail millings be vs. the
natural release continually ongoing from the surrounding mountains to the
Colorado River? If natural erosion were to carry the tail millings to the
Colorado River would there be a very big increase in Uranium concentration
in the water?
I know this area quite well, though the reason for it is not the tail
millings, but the uncreadible beauty of Utah and the surrroundings of Moab -
Arches, Canyonlands etc. I could not and would not want to avoid thinking of
the history of this area as a source of uranium. Therefore I think I can
speak a little about this area. To me it seems or rather is confirmed that
the potential risks of the tail millings is not the release of uranium,
because this was extracted as much as possible, but rather of other elements
and especially chemicals which were by-products from leaching and used as
chemicals for leaching, like sulfate from sulfuric acid, nitrates and
alkaline agents. Byproducts were heavy metals, which ones I cannot tell you
by heart. The most important product from mining was in the very first
beginning vanadium and I have at home - besides some low-grade uranium ore
from the area - beautiful crystals of vanadinite. I have some literature
available, even local newspaper, but it would be extremely difficult to find
it. You might look up the RADSAFE files, a few years ago there was a lively
discussion at RADSAFE, because I asked for the exact location of the mill
tailings.
I have visited at the same time the remediation site at Monticello, where
tailings were removed to a safer storage place. So Moab is not the only
place as a candidate for remediation and many sites have already been
remediated - whether it was necessary or not.
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>2. When is the last time that area flooded? I thought much of the
possibility of flooding has been taken away through the use of dams.
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>3. How much would be released to the river during the dig up? I do not
think that all the dust debris will be contained.
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The release to the river might not so much be of concerne. What I would be
cautious is the dose to the remediators, both from inhalation of radioactive
dust and external radiation. But all those people asking for remediation
never have cared for the enhanced doses to the remediators - as long as they
get rid of a real or perceived radiation risk.
>
>4. Why is it even brought up about the river moving. I know in Louisiana,
that have ways of making the river do what they want not what the river
naturally would like to do. Does the Army Corp of Engineers know something
in La that they might not know in Colorado?
The possibility of preventing land from being flooded or from rivers to
change their way is know since many, many centuries, but obviously not for
some green groups.
>
>5. Why the comparison to the World Trade Center? Trying to shadow the
story with doom and gloom?
>
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In the light of recent mass media releases I am waiting that somebody
declares, that the millions of tons there could be stolen, secretly the
remaining traces of uranium could be extracted in the bathtube of a
terrorist, it would be enriched in the microwave oven of another terrorist,
converted in the backyard shack of the third terrorist in his secret nuclear
power plant to plutonium, plutonium exctracted in the bathtube of yet
another terrorist - because the first will have died already..... -, All the
necessary metallurgical treatment to produce the plutonium metal will be
carried out at the blacksmiths workshop, where it will also be machined into
the most appropriate geometry which is according to knowledgable people
available on the internet. The appropriate explosives will be purchased from
the mafia or from a terrorist organisation working in other fields. Enough!
Enough! I think I read to much of recent news regarding the "Dirty bomb".
>Looks like someone is wanting to spend some more tax payers money.
>
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I could believe that some companies are eagerly waiting for the decision
that Moab has to be remediated - be it removal or capping. The third
possibility, namely to leave it as it is and has been since decades if
obviously no choice.
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I would give a lot to be in this dangerous area and will be there hopefully
in autumn on vacations.
Franz
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