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Re: Potassium cell study



Thanks Philippe,



One item on this science is Section 3.2.1.3 Microorganisms:

http://cnts.wpi.edu/RSH/DD3/3.2.1.3.htm



But John's gotten hundreds data sources. Never reads them.



Regards, Jim





on 7/10/02 11:32 AM, Philippe Duport at pduport@uottawa.ca wrote:



> John,

> 

> Not on K-deprivation experiments, but still on the effects of

> deprivation of radiation:

> 

> Do a search on "Planel H" on MEDLINE.  This will bring you 84 references

> on the effects of lack of radiation on simple organisms (cells and

> parameciaes) and mice.  Most demonstrate a detriment in organisms

> exposed at levels below background and optimum benefits at 4 - 10 times

> background dose rates, that is, close to annual limits for radiation

> workers.  

> 

> Recent work (Courtade-Saidi M., PhD thesis : Les effets d'une

> irradiation gamma chronique à très faible dose sur la souris - Effects

> of very low dose chronic gamma irradiation in mice - , Univ. of

> Toulouse, France, 2001) shows a reduced risk of cancer and

> cardiovascular diseases in exposed mice, at 11.5 cGy/y (35 times

> background vs 0.35 cG/y for controls).

> 

> I can e-mail you the "Planel" list I got from MEDLINE if you want to

> know.

> 

> Philippe Duport

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu] On Behalf Of Jacobus, John

> (OD/ORS)

> Sent: July 10, 2002 8:50 AM

> To: 'Muckerheide'; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> Subject: RE: Potassium cell study

> 

> Ah, yes.  The grand conspiracy.  I knew Charlie, and had a lot of

> respect

> for him.  However, this is still hearsay evidence.  What I am asking is,

> is

> there any documentation of such an experiment?  This is the same as

> saying

> there is a carburetor that allows a car to get 75 miles to a gallon of

> gas

> (4 liters to our international readers)  Says who? There is a story that

> years ago the Navy located all the members of the original Nautilus

> crew,

> because another story was going around that they had all died from

> radiation.  (Story of a story?)  It seems to me that the government

> would

> have published this report since in the 1950's and 1960's was

> encouraging

> the use of nuclear power.

> 

> Again, where is the proof of the potassium cell study?

> 

> By the way, I could not find the subcommittee report at the NRC Web

> Site.  I

> tried using the ADAMS, but that leaves much to be desired.  Could you

> provide me the link so I can read it myself.

> 

> -- John 

> John Jacobus, MS

> Certified Health Physicist

> 3050 Traymore Lane

> Bowie, MD  20715-2024

> 

> E-mail:  jenday1@email.msn.com (H)

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Muckerheide [mailto:muckerheide@attbi.com]

> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:19 PM

> To: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS); radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> Subject: Re: Potassium cell study

> 

> 

> In the part you cut out of the quote, personal knowledge of Charlie

> Willis,

> CHP, NRC senior staff; go to NRC web site, transcript, March 1996, Joint

> Subcommittee of ACRS/ACNW. You also cut out the part about "...because

> of

> the LNT, this data was not published."

> 

> Jim

> 

> 

> on 7/9/02 4:06 PM, Jacobus, John (OD/ORS) at jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov

> wrote:

> 

>> I have this story several times from people whom I trust.  However, is

> their

>> any real "credible" information on this, or is an urban legend?  If

> you

>> think this is part of the government conspiracy, please do not bother

>> replying.

>> 

>> -- John 

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Muckerheide [mailto:muckerheide@attbi.com]

>> Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 11:48 PM

>> To: Norman Cohen; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

>> Subject: Re: 3 items of interest

>> . . . "at the lab [Oak Ridge] in 1958 cells were studied with

>> potassium from which the radioactive radionuclide had been removed [in

> the

>> calutrons, machines used to centrifuge elements for isotopic

> separation]

> the

>> cells looked ok but didn't function, . . ."

>> 

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