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RE: Fw: "Hormetic" responses are intrinsic to biology
During two of my tours in the Navy, I was at a radiobiology research
facility where we exposured small animal models (mice, rats, etc.), large
animal models (dogs, pigs, etc.) and subhuman animal models (monkeys, etc.)
to high doses or radiation. A number of reports were generated. Some
remained in-house, but data was reported at various scientific meetings and
in the scientific literature. However, due to the sensitivity of our work,
I doubt you could say our work was widely distributed. (If you think
anti-nuclear protestors are bad, you cannot imagine what the animal rights
people are like.)
-- John
John Jacobus, MS
Certified Health Physicist
3050 Traymore Lane
Bowie, MD 20715-2024
E-mail: jenday1@email.msn.com (H)
-----Original Message-----
From: M Nivas [mailto:motnivas@YAHOO.COM]
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 1:05 PM
To: John Jacobus
Cc: radsafe
Subject: Re: Fw: "Hormetic" responses are intrinsic to biology
John et.al.
I remember the Oak Ridge C.A.R.L. (comparitive anatomy
research laboratory) performed radiological
experiments. At that time - late 70's, it was
difficult to get information from their experiments
with larger animals. In fact does anyone know if this
program still exists? I think it went under shortly
after.
Does anyone know of were that information is located?
Some was published - Tom Savin
--- John Jacobus <jenday1@MSN.COM> wrote:
> Jim,
> You missed my point. The charge was made that human
> research studies were
> suppressed. They were not, but may have found their
> way into obscure
> reports or reported in old scientific and medical
> journals.
>
> First, why would the NRC investigate the Charlie
> Willis' allegations? Was
> the meeting he spoke at an investigative session on
> misconduct, or was his
> allegation peripheral to the main purpose his
> presentation? Maybe he
> comments were one of the issues that lead to the
> funding of NCRP 136,
> although I do not remember that K-40 cell
> experiments being identified in
> it? (More suppression or non-relevant?)
>
> If you do have the transcript, please send it to me
> at my work address. I
> have never accused you of sending false information.
> I only say that after
> reading the original text, I choose to disagree with
> your conclusion in the
> context of your political agenda. I will try to get
> a copy from the NRC,
> but it may take a while.
>
> I certainly cannot make any statements about your
> claims of government and
> regulatory suppression of data, or the individuals
> involved. I do notice a
> twing of bitterness in that the scientific
> committees do not accept your
> conclusions on the relevance of the data you
> present. (However, you were
> referenced in NCRP 136, so I guess they did review
> the some of your
> submitted material. If they had accepted the
> claims, I am sure your view of
> the NCRP would be different. Such is life.)
>
> As for relevant DOE research, I believe they are
> conducting epidemiological
> studies of the Myank (sp?) workers in Russia. From
> a human standpoint, this
> should be very interest.
>
> -- John
>
> John Jacobus, MS
> Certified Health Physicist
> 3050 Traymore Lane
> Bowie, MD 20715-2024
> jenday1@email.msn.com (H)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Muckerheide" <muckerheide@attbi.com>
> To: "John Jacobus" <jenday1@MSN.COM>;
> <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:39 AM
> Subject: Re: "Hormetic" responses are intrinsic to
> biology
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