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AW: AW: Food Irradiation Alert - Sierra Club of Canada



 
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Von: Richard L. Hess [mailto:lists@richardhess.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 30. November 2002 19:36
An: Franz Schoenhofer; BLHamrick@AOL.COM; RuthWeiner@AOL.COM; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Betreff: Re: AW: Food Irradiation Alert - Sierra Club of Canada

At 07:43 PM 11/30/2002 +0100, Franz Schoenhofer wrote:

While I agree wíth you on the  question whether all use of radioactive material is the target of certain groups and that they want to prohibit it, I do not agree on the use of food irradiation. This topic comes up at RADSAFE frequently. I support any activities to save food in the developing countries by irradiating it and saving it from being destroyed by pests. What I do not support is the clearly uttered interest of some companies in the U'SA to maximize their profits by marketing food, which otherwise would not be possible to be marketized, because it is infested by salmonella and other - deadly - bacteria. Yes, I write "deadly bacteria".
I clearly oppose  it, when it comes to "extended shelf live". This is an argument, which is in sharp contrast with the world wide opinion that food should be as fresh as possible. If Americans accept that foods shelf life is extended by radiation - please do it. Nobody in Europe will accept it - simply because there is no need for it. We have excellent ways to ship oysters, fish, crabs, etc.  to any destination within Europe. The price is accordingly. If you do not want to pay the price for fresh oysters - leave it and eat a McDonalds hamburger instead - in Europe this would be a kind of insunuaion.

Food irradiation is ok, if it helps peoples to escape famine. It is a crime, if it is intended to maximise profits of world wide acting companies.



 
Franz


Hi, Franz,

Do you oppose irradiation to extend shelf life and "maximise the profits of world wide acting companies" because while irradiation is good to help reduce famine, it still is detrimental to the taste/texture/perceived quality of the food?

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Richard,
I think I have clearly stated, that irradiation is in my opinion not necessary in our "Western world", because we have the possibility to ship food fast enough that it reaches the consumer unspoiled and uninfested. Infestion by for instance salmonella is in many cases unavoidable (Ruth pointed correctly to chicken), but common sense tells people, not to eat raw or half-cooked chicken and to wash hands after having prepared a meal is in my opinion also common sense and wide used practice! I personally do not like half-done food made from ground meat, so cooking the hamburgers correctly eliminates any danger from salmonella in ground meat. We prefer in Europe small businesses - simply because it provides work for much more people - but if let's say a ton of ground meat is infested with salmonella it does not matter so much, compared to hundreds of tons. Moreover the regulations for ground meat and the controls are very strict in the European Union. Europeans claim, that the European Union is overregulating everything (like the curvation of cucumber is regulated....), but somehow this keeps our food rather safe. Because of the small dimensions in case of a salmonella outbreak, only a few people are affected. 
 
What is the difference in your mind between irradiation and the other methods of extending food shelf life all over the world such as: refrigeration, freezing, freeze-drying, dehydrating, pickling?
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Yes, I think that there is a big difference. The methods of refrigeration, freezing, smoking, drying and pickling are well developed since dozens and hundreds of years. The technology is extremely wide-spread in the "Western countries". (I remember that when I was young - a long time ago! - my family did not own a refrigerator, not to talk about a freezer.) Pickling is nowadays not only a matter of food conservation, but is mostly used to produce certain food with distinctive flavour, as is smoking. But even at the old times fruits, cabbage, lettuce etc. was available also during winter time, because techniques were available since ages, to store them in cool cellars after their harvest. 
As a contrast: What is irradiation like? You need huge processing plants, you need a very complicated logistic, you waste time to ship goods to the irradiation plant and to ship it from there to the consumers - is this extended shelf-life? You need enormous capital investments for these plants, not to talk about the licensing procedures. I do not believe that the marketing organisations pay these costs.....
Finally: I enjoy tropical fruits, especially when being in countries, where they are freshly supplied to the markets. I have recently been four weeks in Mexico and I really enjoyed the papayas, the melons, pineapples etc. But do we really have to have these fruits in our countries? Can't we eat apples and pears? 
With my best regards,
Franz