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Re: Award offer



	--I agree with what Bill Field says below. That is an example

where SES is a confounding factor. Possible confounding factors are a very

important aspect of any epidemiologic study. That is why I pay such great

attention to them in my papers. See especially Item #7 on my web site,

"Treatment of Confounding Factors ..."



On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 epirad@mchsi.com wrote:



> Jerry,

>

> You wrote: "to buy his conclusions you have to accept the notion that radon

> levels somehow affect smoking habits"

>

> ----------------------

> People who smoke are generally lower in socioeconomic status (SES).  The SES

> surely can affect radon levels.

>

> Perhaps:

>

> People who smoke (lower SES) can not afford air conditioning (or lower it

> usage) so leave windows open more.

>

> etc., etc.

>

> Bill Field

> bill-field@uiowa.edu

> > Wes, et al,

> >     To me, your assessment of Puskin's paper seems too kind. Puskin's "analysis"

> > appears to be little more than a slick attempt to obfuscate its fundamental lack

> > of logic.

> >     When you cut through all the crap, to buy his conclusions you have to accept

> > the notion that  radon levels somehow affect smoking habits. I have a bridge I'd

> > like to sell to anyone who finds that  plausible.     Jerry

> >

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> >   From: Wesley

> >   To: epirad@mchsi.com ; 'Carl Miller' ; 'radsafe'

> >   Cc: 'BERNARD L COHEN' ; Wesley R. Van Pelt

> >   Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2003 7:26 AM

> >   Subject: RE: Award offer

> >

> >

> >   To Bill Field and Radsafe,

> >

> >

> >

> >   Dr. Puskin has contributed an interesting and valuable paper addressing

> > "Cohen's discrepancy," i.e., Cohen's negative county level association between

> > radon and lung cancer. Puskin shows that respiratory system cancers correlate

> > negatively with radon, but other cancers do not. He then assumes that this is

> > due to smoking (i.e., the smoke causes respiratory system cancers but not other

> > cancers). He then implies that, for some reason, radon is higher in counties

> > where smoking is lower. He offers no data demonstrating why this would be so.

> >

> >

> >

> >   I can think of no reason why radon would be robustly and consistently higher

> > in counties where smoking is lower. To me, this is an implausible association.

> >

> >

> >

> >   Bill Field's implication that Dr. Puskin has explained Dr. Cohen's discrepancy

> > and deserves the award is premature.

> >

> >

> >

> >   Best regards,

> >

> >   Wes

> >

> >   Wesley R. Van Pelt, PhD, CIH, CHP

> >

> >   Wesley R. Van Pelt Associates, Inc.

> >

> >   http://home.att.net/~wesvanpelt/Radiation.html

> >

> >   wesvanpelt@att.net

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >   > Carl,

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > Since Dr. Puskin is a federal employee, he likely can not accept a reward

> >

> >   > offer.  However, a donation to the American Cancer Society could be made

> >

> >   > in

> >

> >   > his name.

> >

> >   >

> >

> >   > Regards, Bill Field

> >

> >   > epirad@mchsi.com

> >

> >

> >

> >

>



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