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RE: Scientific responsibility



Both comments are valid. I want to add my $0.02-worth, if only to divert some heated debate.
 
I think that it is quite clear that the LNT hypothesis is universally ASSUMED to be DE-FACTO CORRECT in the absense of a credible alternative hypothesis. I admit that there are many good reasons for this. But the unfortunate result is that the LNT assumption has been ENTRENCHED via legislation. This imposes very low, unpractical/uneconomical, dose rate limits that the highlighted ALARA portion, purportedly, mitigates.
 
This has proven very expensive in the way resources in many industries, at the expense of the taxpayers and the consumers, any way you slice it. I know from first-hand experience that some projects, that would certainly serve the public good, sometimes prove too costly because of the dose-rate limits imposed by legislation based directly on the LNT model.
 
Clearly, we can all agree that there are serious negative consequences to the LNT hypothesis. The question is what theory or working hypothesis should we use in its place? Many of us anxiously await the David that can slay this LNT Goliath, lessening the burden on our industry and on mankind itself. In the meantime, we are all forced to live with ALARA and the LNT theory - and there is a price to pay.
 
Best regards,
 
Grant
 
Please note that these are my personal thoughts only, and they should not be taken to reflect those of my company in any way.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Les Aldrich [mailto:laldrich@gte.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 2:55 PM
To: William V Lipton; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu
Subject: Re: Scientific responsibility

Bill,
 
How nice of you to underline the part of the ALARA definition that I stressed, unsuccessfully, every time someone wasted money fighting millirem.  The part you don't understand, apparently, is that the underlined part has been ignored and basically erased by the government overseer of non-reactor nuclear facilities.
 
Actually, my argument is that there shouldn't be a red light there in the first place, because there is no possibility of an accident.
 
When someone tells me that any amount of radiation, no matter how small, is dangerous, a statement that is demonstrably untrue, and takes (tax) money out of my pocket to protect against the small amount of radiation, they have obtained my money by fraud.(see any dictionary for the definition of fraud).  With the exception of the NRC, who at least tried to establish a level below regulatory concern, all government agencies continue to perpetuate the LNT myth.
 
It has always been, and will continue to be, about dose.
 
I'm retired, so noone else can be blamed for my opinions.

Les Aldrich, CHP
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: Scientific responsibility

"Criminal waste of financial resources..."  Wow!  I didn't know about that.  Have you called the Attorney General?  I'd at least call the NRC Chair and tell him that he has the right to remain silent!

While I can't defend every "ALARA" decision, I suggest that you read the definition of ALARA  in 10 CFR 20.1003:  "ALARA ... means making every reasonable effort to maintain exposures to radiation as far below the dose limits in this part as is practical consistent with the purpose for which the licensed activity is undertaken, taking into account the state of technology, the economics of improvements in relation to the state of technology, the economics of improvements in relation to benefits to the public health and safety, and other societal and socioeconomic considerations..."  [emphasis mine]

Exactly what part of this do you find "criminal"?  If you have problems with an inspector's  interpretation of this concept, then that's what you should be disputing.

You mention the case of radwaste in a landfill.  To me, the reason for making the licensee recover the waste is as much to deter future mishaps and promote good practices as to minimize the risk from that incident.  Your argument is equivalent to saying that you shouldn't get a citation for running a red light, since there was no accident.

The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
It's not about dose, it's about trust.
Curies forever.

Bill Lipton
liptonw@dteenergy.com