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RE: NJ Gets Seaport Radiation Detector





I guess I would be less sensitive to this sort of "state secrets"

had I not grown up in a state full of them (Soviet block).

 I just know what this means (if this is declared such a secret,

I have not checked for this particular case).

 I have seen more attempts at justification of things people can't

possibly like but too tough to fight than I care to remember. The

trend in todays "developed" societies is, alas, upwards.

 Now even if we believe the terrorists who we are told want to smuggle 

radioactive material have the brains to set a working strategy based

on the knowledge of the equipment brand which has been installed,

how on Earth do we believe they will just act based on that knowledge 

and not go the simple way of finding out by trial and error.

 Given the number of expendable human resources they have (trend also 

upwards...) the only information they might be interested in was

in the subject line...



Dimiter





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Dimiter Popoff                                    ++359/2/9923340

Transgalactic Instruments, Gourko Str. 25 b, 1000 Sofia, Bulgaria

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> Subject: RE: NJ Gets Seaport Radiation Detector

> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:56:53 +0800

> From: "Tsurikov, Nick" <Nick.Tsurikov@iluka.com>

> To: "Michael J Vala" <michael.vala@bms.com>,

>              <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

> 

> Dear Michael,

> 

> You comment is probably valid but there are many things that are shipped

> across the globe that have nothing to do with weapons but would trigger

> detectors at, say, scrap metal yard.  Examples would be minerals like

> tantalum concentrate or heavy mineral sands.  

> 

> OK, if there is any information out there it should probably be not

> posted openly...  but - can we please have some contact

> addresses/names/e-mails/phone no's/etc of whom to ask?

> 

> If the limits are set too low, the shipping of minerals mined outside US

> to numerous processing facilities would be quite impossible.  If anyone

> has any contacts with people enacting the 'seaport detector' thing -

> could you please ask them to do it having NORM-TENORM stuff in mind?

> 

> Kind regards

> 

> Nick Tsurikov

> 

> Eneabba, Western Australia

> 

> http://eneabba.net/ 

> 

>  

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Michael J Vala [mailto:michael.vala@bms.com] 

> Sent: Wednesday,24 March 2004 1:08 AM

> To: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> Subject: re: NJ Gets Seaport Radiation Detector

> 

>  

> 

> Come on now! We already told the terrorists they should not use Port

> Elizabeth to send their radiological weapons, now we should tell them

> the limits of the detectors so they can try sneak something past them. 

> 

> I really hopes no one provides this information or even speculates.  I

> live 20 miles west of the World Trade Center site, I saw the plume on

> 9/11 against the brilliant blue sky.  On 9/12, I could smell the plume

> from my front yard.  We live in a different world, please control your

> curiosity. 

> 

> Mike Vala 

>   

> 

> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 08:45:59 -0500 

> From: "Rick Orthen" <rorthen@cecinc.com> 

> Subject: RE: Article: N.J. Gets Seaport Radiation Detectors 

> 

> Any info on whose equipment is being used there and what the detection 

> trigger is? 

>   

> 

> Richard F. Orthen, CHMM 

> Senior Project Manager 

> Civil & Environmental Consultants, Inc. 

> Four Triangle Lane, Suite 200 

> Export, PA  15632-9255 

> 724/327-5200, ext. 231 

> www.cecinc.com 

>   

>

>

>

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