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Re: Again 8 kB
- To: radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
- Subject: Re: Again 8 kB
- From: Richard Davies <richard@builth-hs.powys.sch.uk>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:11:02 +0000
- In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991126220454.0089ac40@pop3.via.at>
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Could you please send me a copy of the message which was sent as i have not
had the oportunity to read it and would like to do so.
could you also put the word info in the subject as this will help me find it.
thank you.
At 21:11 26/11/99 +0000, you wrote:
>Mr. Muckerheide,
>
>In your "answer" you stated that your message was intended to be
>distributed to the RADSAFE list. This means that you sent a 42 (forty two)
>kB message deliberately to more than 2000 persons, of whom only a very
>small percentage (I am very polite, I should rather say a very small
>permille) is interested in your message. Your message was not only hardly
>understandable for me (I suppose also for other RADSAFERs), it was a
>violation of the privacy of persons and patients involved, it was stating
>non-existing "facts" from isolated cases without any scientific background.
>Your statements are not scientific, but only directed by your attitude to
>promote your hate against the LNT theory. Your reply is another
>confirmation of that.
>
>I have several times also in the RADSAFE newsgroup stated, that nobody can
>prove that the LNT theory is valid and that nobody can prove that it is not
>valid. Isn't that enough? I do not want to get into details, because a
>discussion with you about LNT is as useless as trying to convince
>Greenpeace that what they disseminate about nuclear power and radioactivity
>is mere nonsense.
>
>I do not know, whether you have tried to get into the media (papers, TV),
>but if I were an anti-nuclear editor of a paper or a TV-station I would
>invite you to present your opinions - and then an overwhelming majority of
>readers and viewers would be totally antinuclear. It would not even need
>Gofman and the other guys. In educating people to have a balanced view on
>radiation, nuclear energy etc. we need other persons than you.
>
>Your opinion about policy-makers may be right - I cannot judge that from
>Austria, but you cannot fight them by hatred and by insults. You claim
>scientific evidences - which you have not presented - but phrases (not
>phases) like "defrauding the public for personal gain", comparing a
>government to "organized crime", to talk about criminality, accusations for
>the HPS president, the ICRP, the "radiation protectionists" for causing the
>death of people" go much too far and could be cases for the court. To
>offend organisations like the HPS and the ANS by stating a "self interest"
>and accusing them of suppressing the questioning LNT policy and ignoring
>the science goes too far.
>
>
>I conclude for myself that you cannot present any scientific evidence for
>your claims. On the other hand nobody can present any scientific evidence
>for the opposite opinion. Therefore your comments - which I have said are
>going to far in the direction of offence and could be even a case for the
>court - are more than unnecessary. They do not only not help the efforts of
>reasonable scientists to put the so called "hazards of radiation" into
>perspective, but could be a reason for indifferent persons to oppose these
>efforts.
>
>
>So I ask you again to refrain from such messages. Send it to your friends
>privately. We know that some journalists are watching RADSAFE and I think
>that no RADSAFER wants to have your private opinion presented in the mass
>media as the opinion of the "radiation protection scientists".
>
>Franz
>
>
>Franz Schoenhofer
>Habicherg. 31/7
>A-1160 Vienna
>Austria
>Tel.: +43-1-495 53 08
>Fax.: same number
>mobile phone: +43-664-338 0 333
>e-mail: schoenho@via.at
>
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