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Re: Unplug Salem, etc.
What does PSEG do in their estuary enhancement program that destroys the wetlands? What quantity of fish are killed by PSEG because of their lack of cooling towers.. what species of fish are killed? I'd be willing to bet that PSEG's "estuary enhancement" program has done one heck of a lot less damage to marshes than all the continued coastal development in this country or all of the power boats that continue to spew toxins into our waterways.... or all of the storm drains drain into the watershed because people want to live near the coasts or on lakes in our country.... if people really care about the marshes and the coastal areas, the best thing they could do for those areas is to leave, pack up and move away. then there will be no more storm drain run off, and maybe, we should ban all powerboats from any water... if you want to be on the ocean you can only sail...and if we are going to protect fish, then we should outlaw "sport- catch and release" fishing, because recent studies have shown that about ½ of all fish that are "caught and released" die from the stress of fishing...
just some suggestions to consider in order to make our environments cleaner and safer for all of those creatures who share it with us...
Patricia Milligan Sullivan, CHP
pxm@nrc.gov
>>> Norman & Karen Cohen <norco@bellatlantic.net> 05/01 4:52 PM >>>
My responses in the dashes------
OFFTOWY@aol.com wrote:
> Now that we have had a short exchange of information with Mr. Cohen, perhaps
> a few questions would be permitted.
>
> Mr. Cohen, I presume from your posts that you are active in the movement to
> shut down the Salem (and Hope Creek?) power plants.
----- I'm the Coordinator of the UNPLUG Salem Campaign, which focuses on Salem 1
& 2
because of the combination of safety and fishkills. This means that the Campaign
has some
groups who are not anti-nuke, just anti-Salem.--------
> I was wondering, when
> you receive presumably scientifically sound information from this list and
> other sources, do you transfer that new-found knowledge to your cohorts? Is
> there some exchange in which you say, "We were wrong about such and such, so
> let's mark that off of our list of contentions."
>
-------------I do pass some info on to our "experts" and/or long time activists,
for their comments. If I ever have an epiphany from info on this list, yes, I'll
pass it on. I do agree
that it would make sense to pass a condensed version of the 2 main threads,
Chernoybl and
Tooth Fairy to the UNPLUG Salem list. BTW - at least one Radsafer is on, mostly
as a lurker, the UNPLUG Salem list. Its open to anyone, feel free to join and
opine away.----------
>
> Following on that, is there some quantity or quality of information that must
> be presented to convince you that Salem and Hope Creek are, all things
> considered, a good thing for Salem County and the surrounding area? Is there
> a single issue, or collection of issues, that we can clear up so that you go
> back to all of these groups and say, "Well, we were completely wrong, I am
> personally convinced that Salem is a good deal for the community and we
> should support it." Not that Salem is beautiful, or 100% without risk
> (sorry, no such thing), but that the economic and social benefits outweigh
> the possible detriments. If so, let us know what that level of proof is.
> ------ The problem with Salem is more than just nuke safety, which is a major
> issue.
Salem slaughters fish because pseg refuses to build cooling towers. PSEG's
so-called "Estuary Enhancement Program" destroys marshes. Our position has been
that it's just not worth the risk to South Jersey and Delaware especially when
there are safer alternatives available. So the odds of your emailing me a pile of
proof so convincing that we at UNPLUG call a meeting and disband is slim. But
then my idea of posting to this list wasn't to 'convert' anyone, just to listen
and learn, contribute where I could. -------
>
> Are you personally willing to hear and accept the science in lieu of the
> nonsense? ------ Yes, but what you consider 'nonsense' I may consider 'sense'
> and we may have to agree to disagree ----- Or are we really just wasting our
> time? --- No ---
norm
>
>
>
> Lew LaGarde
> e-mail - offtowy@aol.com
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