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Re: COGEMA Says No to LNT
John and Bill:
Do you disagree with the position statement by the "megalomaniac on a
mission from God" in the HPS?:
( http://www.hps.org/documents/radiationrisk.pdf )
"In accordance with current knowledge of radiation health risks, the Health
Physics Society recommends against quantitative estimation of health risks
below an individual dose of 5 rem in one year ."
Isn't that what the report claims Cogema did? Is the HPS position statement
in violation of any US laws or regulations?
Kai
----- Original Message -----
From: "William V Lipton" <liptonw@DTEENERGY.COM>
To: "Jacobus, John (OD/ORS)" <jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov>
Cc: "RadSafe" <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:52 AM
Subject: Re: COGEMA Says No to LNT
> You expressed what I've been trying to say; many thanx.
> Let me add that:
>
> (1) Regulations are not based on LNT as "truth," but simply as a
conservative
> assumption for planning purposes.
>
> (2) Regardless of what they they may think, the anti-LNT folks don't
possess
> "scientific truth," but simply a hypothesis which they believe has better
> evidence.
>
> (3) Nothing's more dangerous than a megalomaniac on a mission from God.
I'll
> take my chances with the inefficiencies and errors of the democratic
process,
> rather than submit to the self-proclaimed experts who are so sure of
themselves
> that they won't listen to criticism.
>
> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
> It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> Curies forever.
>
> Bill Lipton
> liptonw@dteenergy.com
>
> "Jacobus, John (OD/ORS)" wrote:
>
> > Fritz,
> > Obviously, what I am saying is that laws and regulations are not written
> > based on scientific studies, but by the actions of legislatures and
> > governments. Unless you live in some ivory tower, you should know that
> > because you and a collection of friends think that regulations should be
> > changed it will happen. Have you contacted your legislature and told
them
> > the truth that they should obviously know? This list server provides an
> > outlet for a lot of frustrated people who think that the world should
listen
> > to them and only them. That is not how any government, except
> > dictatorships, work.
> >
> > I would also ask what do you mean by the LNT? In cells, mice, yeast?
Do
> > you mean an immune response in humans or responses to ionization that
may or
> > may not lead to cancer after many years. If biology was like physics,
it
> > would be a lot easier to demonstrate cause and effect.
> >
> > I should also remind you that as Einstein showed, even measurements in
> > science are relative to the frame of reference.
> >
> > Have a good week.
> >
> > -- John
> > John Jacobus, MS
> > Certified Health Physicist
> > 3050 Traymore Lane
> > Bowie, MD 20715-2024
> >
> > E-mail: jenday1@email.msn.com (H)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Fritz A. Seiler [mailto:faseiler@nmia.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:14 PM
> > To: Jacobus, John (OD/ORS)
> > Subject: Re: COGEMA Says No to LNT
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Are you implying that scientific truth depends on the involvement of a
> > government or a legislative body?
> >
> > I hope not! Best regards,
> >
> > Fritz
> >
> > "Jacobus, John (OD/ORS)" wrote:
> > >
> > > Fritz,
> > > Of course, you are not a regulator and therefore do not have to answer
to
> > > any government and legislative body. You can make any pronouncements
you
> > > like and do not have to worry about the consequences.
> > >
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