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Re: Dirty Bombs



Hedemann Jensen, Riso Nat. Lab. Roskild Denmark, presented an interesting paper based on the recent ICRP 82: ICRP PUBLICATION 82 ON PROTECTION AGAINST PROLONGED EXPOSURE - APPLICATION IN ACCIDENT SITUATIONS, RADIOLOGICAL PROTECTION IN THE 2000s - THEORY AND PRACTICE, Nordic Society for Radiation Protection, 13th Ordinary Meeting, Turku, Finland, 25 - 29 August 2002, it is available at: http://www.risoe.dk/rispubl/NUK/nukartikler/pdfartikler/Aabo_PHJ.pdf

Also the paper presented by  Abel Gonzales IRPA-10 Conference, is very useful to understand the complete aspect on the concept of ICRP 82 (including accidents):   Decision-Making about Chronic Radiation Exposure to the Public: New Recommendations from the ICRP -  I Think it is possible to download the paper searching the Google and IRPA-10, anyhow I have the text to those interested

Jose Julio Rozental
Israel
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Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 5:25 AM
Subject: Re: Dirty Bombs

At 07:42 PM 11/27/2002 -0600, Rad Safety Institute wrote:
Has anyone looked into the dirty bomb scenarios given on the FAS Web at this address:
    http://www.fas.org/faspir/2002/v55n2/dirtybomb.htm
The calculations are not documented (methodology/models?) and they violate all of my intuitions. The language is inflammatory, and the results appear quite exaggerated. Have any of you done any recent calculations we could use for comparison? All opinions appreciated!  Ed Battle

Ed, as a visiting, non-professional member of this list, my first reaction is this is based on the normal LNT calculations. I certainly think that the outer rings (0.05% increase in cancer) is in the statistical noise, but I'm not a statistician. I'd even go so far as to say the middle rings (0.5%) are questionable.

As to whether the entire city would have to be demolished would be based on what the cleanup standards should be. ALARA at what cost??? If we're seeing background radiation of 10µR/hr and the event adds 1µR/hr to that, is that any worse than moving to Denver? So New York or Washington become Denver? Do we demolish Denver?

Is the radiation you're measuring in the brownstone façade from the device or residual in the stone itself? What was the measurement there before? Oh, you don't have it?

I think this is the type of press that used to scare the stuffing out of me. Thanks to the list, I've become more critical.

Did I pass the test?

Cheers,

Richard