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RE: Bq soon:Why this discussion again ?



William, 



I find that a bit far fetch to link culture with system of units...  People

have tried to do so on this list already, now you  compare the situation

with Fascism and I personnally don`t buy it.  Keep asking for a quarter

pound with cheese at McDonald if you want , I persopnnaly do it myself and

no one have problems with that and you know it ! You are surely aware that

no police will come behind you at the butcher`s and make you repeat and

convert your initial request for 2 pounds of  beef ... 



Bottom line, you have said it yourself, you have no problem wit SIU

professionnaly, and that is the only thing that should matter to THIS LIST.

As HPs, one factor before a number instead of another factor makes no

difference, as long as you indicate the unit of reference. I will personnaly

never force anyone to use Bq or Ci, but for my radiation safety program, I

am forcing all the people, technical or not, to at least write the units

they are using.



We should stop thinking that members of the public are all idiots and "would

find it confusing". The basic problem is that some of them do not take the

time to understand the units or simply don`t care. It is more a question of

"It is scientific therefore complicated". The example of mile per gallon or

liter per 100 km someone reported on this list was a good example: Not

confusing IF you try to understand the ratio concept. 



A  small anecdote to illustrate the current situation: Our safety dept. here

had a contest last year and one question was: "What is the speed limit in

the company`s parking lot ?"  When we proceed to the draw, 2 answers out of

the 5 that we draw were "15" , nothing more. I made a joke, saying it was

not the proper answer as 15 potatoes or 15 minutes is not a speed

limit...And we should draw 2 other names...  Only one person laugh... Do you

think the unit conversion is the real problem with the public ?







PS: William, do you really think all the songs, all the expressions using

Imperial units will vanish with the bad metric system ?!!! We can discuss

that off list :-)



Stephane Jean-Francois, Eng., CHP,

Specialiste en radioprotection-Radiation Safety Specialist

Gestion des risques-Risk Management

Merck Frosst Canada et Cie,

514.428.8695

Fax:514.428.8670

stephane_jeanfrancois@merck.com

http://www.merckfrosstlab.ca







-----Original Message-----

From: William Prestwich [mailto:prestwic@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca]

Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 9:48 AM

To: Jean-Francois, Stephane

Cc: radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

Subject: RE: Bq soon:Why this discussion again ?





This Canadian begs to differ a little bit. While I have no problem with

SIU professionally, I think one thing the metric fascists up here forgot

about was the integration of units into our culture:



"The woods are lovely, dark and deep,

But I have promises to keep,

And miles to go before I sleep,

And miles to go before I sleep."



We are a nation with two languages, and should also be one with two

systems of units. There is absolutely nothing wrong with selling meat by

the pound, cloth by the yard and gasoline by the gallon, while using Bq,

Gy, Sv, km kg etc professionally. I admire you folks in the USA for not

succumbimg to what amounts to a destruction of your heritage by using the

imperial system(more Roman than British really) in your every day life.

Cheers,

Bill Prestwich





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