RE: If you do Science, use the Scientific Method!

[John Jacobus <crispy_bird@yahoo.com>]

Ted,

That is exactly my point.  Rather than relying on

cellular or animal studies, with various compounding

factors such as cell line, specie differences, end

points, etc., and extrapolation the data to human,

look at the human data.  What does it show about

radiation on humans, not what we think it shows.  



--- Ted Rockwell <tedrock@starpower.net> wrote:

> They certainly do not prove that LDR is harmful,

> which is the question in

> question.

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> [mailto:owner-radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu]On Behalf

> Of John Jacobus

> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:07 PM

> To: Stabin, Michael; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> Subject: RE: If you do Science, use the Scientific

> Method!

> 

> 

> Do the numerious epidemiological studies that shows

> no

> know affects below 10 rem (0.1 Sv) count as proof?

> 

> --- "Stabin, Michael"

> <michael.g.stabin@vanderbilt.edu> wrote:

> >

> > >That is why "disproving" the LNT is important. 

> It

> > is being used in a

> > reckless manner, even by those who should know

> > better.

> >

> > I agree that the LNT has been used recklessly, and

> > that responsible

> > scientists who know better should point out when

> > that is occurring.

> > However, I think that scientific and intellectual

> > honesty is the most

> > important element in both our professional lives

> and

> > our dealings with

> > the public. I believe that anyone who is honest

> with

> > the data will admit

> > that at this point in time we don't know what is

> > going on at low levels

> > of dose. There is evidence in some experiments and

> > data sets of

> > thresholds and perhaps hormesis, but in others

> > evidence of linearity,

> > bystander effects, and other effects at low levels

> > that cannot be

> > categorically refuted. Until we have a unified and

> > accepted

> > understanding of low level effects, we should also

> > not recklessly claim

> > that there are none.

> >

. . .



=====

"Crime is contagious.  If the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law."

Louis D. Brandeis, Supreme Court decision in Olmstead v. U.S., 1928



-- John

John Jacobus, MS

Certified Health Physicist

e-mail:  crispy_bird@yahoo.com



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