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Beta dose could be considered a risk issue for DDE for the eyes.  In most
power plants, workers typically wear safety glasses or other types of eye
protection which provide sufficient shielding that DDE to the eyes is not of
concern.  It seems to me that in order to protect a site from regulatory
interpretation and variability of interpretation, the best thing to do is to
develop and approve a Technical Basis Document which details the site
position on this subject, technical basis and any limitations or precautions
to be considered in procedural implementation.  Having done that, it would
seem that no routine posting for radiation areas due to beta would be
necessary.  Remember to be circumspect, because there is always a small
probability that work may occur in some special circumstance where dose from
beta to the eyes might need to be considered and in that situation, postings
should be considered depending on the other work controls and necessity to
warn other workers of the dose hazard.

				Thanks!
				   Ray Weedon 
				        Manager, Radiological Training
				           T130B;  # 49
				              Ext 6813, Page 212-3827
	
Ray.Weedon@Exchange.rfets.gov

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> From:	radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu [SMTP:radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu]
> Sent:	Friday, September 10, 1999 6:13 AM
> To:	Multiple recipients of list
> Subject:	RADSAFE digest 2636
> 
> 			    RADSAFE Digest 2636
> 
> Topics covered in this issue include:
> 
>   1) Cold Fusion without graphics.....
> 	by High Plains Drifter <magna1@jps.net>
>   2) Area Postings for Beta
> 	by "x" <netngatr@magnolia.net>
>   3) RADIATION EFFECT ANTIDOTE?
> 	by jack bell <bellstar@erols.com>
>   4) Snoopy
> 	by ROBBARISH@aol.com
>   5) RE: Area Postings for Beta
> 	by "Ruyter, David S." <David.Ruyter@pseg.com>
>   6) Re: Area Postings for Beta
> 	by "Robert Denne" <rdenne@worldnet.att.net>
>   7) Re: Area Postings for Beta
> 	by Brent_Robinson@fpl.com
>   8) Re: Suppliers for lead bricks
> 	by William V Lipton <liptonw@dteenergy.com>
>   9) RE: Area Postings for Beta
> 	by "Redmond, Randy R. (RXQ) " <RXQ@ornl.gov>
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 21:48:45 -0700
> From: High Plains Drifter <magna1@jps.net>
> To: Radsafe <RADSAFE@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Cold Fusion without graphics.....
> Message-ID: <37D88DAD.C0D6358B@jps.net>
> 
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> Even though Melissa may doubt the scientific merit of this
> post, I ask you fellow Radsafers to decide for your self. 
> If you have any information on the study of cold fusion in
> the Tri-Cities and the radiological implications please get
> back to me.
> 
> Sorry, sorry to you all about the graphic (standard
> compressed .jpg) that did not convert on the listserver. 
> But if you are still curious about the picture, it is the
> last one on the below noted webpage.  
> 
> http://www.micapeak.com/Phil/ib99/ib3.htm
> 
> This picture came from an Iron Butt Rally check point in
> Kennewick, WA on August 31, 1999.  Evidently Cold Fusion is
> not dead in the Tri-Cities area.  Also, I did not know that
> DOE was sponsoring a motorcycle rally rider.  Word is, the
> rider is a senior scientist at the Area 51 site.
> 
> High Plains Drifter, CHP, IBA
> magna1@jps.net
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> <html>
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> <!-- change next line -->
> <title>'99 Iron Butt Kennewick Rears</title>
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> <td width=560>
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> <center>
> <font size="5">
> '99 Iron Butt Rally<br>
> </font>
> <font size="3">
> Kennewick, August 31
> </font>
> <hr size=1 noshade>
> &nbsp;
> </center>
> </td>
> </tr>
> 
> <tr>
> <td width=80 valign=top>
> <font size="1">
> <center>
> <a href="ib1.htm"><b>Riders</b></a><br><br>
> <a href="ib2.htm"><b>Toys</b></a><br><br>
> <b>Rears</b><br><br>
> <a href="ib4.htm"><b>Players</b></a>
> </center>
> </font>
> </td>
> 
> <td width=560>
> <center>
> <b>
> 
> <img src="ib10.jpg" width=311 height=461><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
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> <img src="ib13.jpg" width=461 height=311><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> <img src="ib17.jpg" width=311 height=461><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> <img src="ib19.jpg" width=461 height=311><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> <img src="ib24.jpg" width=461 height=311><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> <img src="ib27.jpg" width=461 height=311><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> <img src="ib36.jpg" width=461 height=311><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> <img src="ib45.jpg" width=311 height=461><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> <img src="ib48.jpg" width=311 height=461><br>
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> <td width=80 valign=middle>
> <font size="1">
> <center>
> <a href="ib1.htm"><b>Riders</b></a><br><br>
> <a href="ib2.htm"><b>Toys</b></a><br><br>
> <b>Rears</b><br><br>
> <a href="ib4.htm"><b>Players</b></a>
> </center>
> </font>
> </td>
> 
> <td width=560>
> <center>
> <b>
> 
> <img src="ib49.jpg" width=311 height=461><br>
> &nbsp;<br><br>
> 
> </b>
> <p>Photos &#169; Phil Kopp 1999
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> Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 23:44:46 -0700
> From: "x" <netngatr@magnolia.net>
> To: "RADSAFE" <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Area Postings for Beta
> Message-ID: <002501befb57$f9555c00$957f4bc7@user-001>
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> Fellow RADSAFERS,
> =20
> I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find exactly what I'm =
> looking for.  I know someone out there has the solution,  I haven't seen =
> a question yet go unanswered.
> 
> I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and references you may have =
> dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where DDE from =
> beta is not a concern.
> 
> Assume the only source of radiation is power plant components with mixed =
> fission/corrosion products and no significant gamma contribution to dose =
> rates.  The beta energies are low enough that DDE from beta is not =
> significant, documented in past studies.
> 
> 1.  Do you post 'Radiation Area' signs for those areas that exceed 5 =
> mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA signs for 100 mrem/hr beta =
> @30cm?  Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA and dose equivalent do =
> not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it seems clear to me that posting =
> is required.
> 
> 2.  Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped with =
> plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item, =
> but >100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.  Does anyone use a =
> "Beta High Radiation Area" posting or similar to ensure SDE or extremity =
> monitoring when handling such wrapped items?
> 
> 3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry apply? (Tech Specs =
> similar to RegGuide 8.38)
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Richard Sumrall
> HP Instructor
> Grand Gulf Nuclear Station
> rsumral@entergy.com
> 
> My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed or endorsed by my =
> employer.
> 
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Fellow RADSAFERS,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find =
> exactly what=20
> I'm looking for.&nbsp; I know someone out there has the solution,&nbsp; =
> I=20
> haven't seen a question yet go unanswered.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and =
> references you=20
> may have dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where =
> DDE from=20
> beta is not a concern.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Assume the only source of radiation =
> is power=20
> plant components with mixed fission/corrosion products and no =
> significant gamma=20
> contribution to dose rates.&nbsp; The beta energies are low enough that =
> DDE from=20
> beta is not significant, documented in past studies.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1.&nbsp; Do you post 'Radiation =
> Area' signs for=20
> those areas that exceed 5 mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA =
> signs for=20
> 100 mrem/hr beta @30cm?&nbsp; Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA =
> and dose=20
> equivalent do not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it</FONT><FONT=20
> color=3D#000000 size=3D2> seems clear to me that posting is =
> required.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>2.&nbsp; Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped =
> with=20
> plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item, =
> but=20
> &gt;100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.&nbsp; Does anyone =
> use a=20
> &quot;Beta High Radiation Area&quot; posting or similar to ensure SDE or =
> 
> extremity monitoring when handling such wrapped items?</DIV>
> <DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry =
> apply?=20
> (Tech Specs similar to RegGuide 8.38)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks for your help,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Richard Sumrall</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HP Instructor</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Grand Gulf Nuclear =
> Station</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:rsumral@entergy.com";>rsumral@entergy.com</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed =
> or=20
> endorsed by my employer.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 01:42:20 -0400
> From: jack bell <bellstar@erols.com>
> To: radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> Subject: RADIATION EFFECT ANTIDOTE?
> Message-ID: <37D89A3C.15F9001E@erols.com>
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Heard the tail end of a news report that said something about using gene
> therapy to reduce the nasty effects of radiation therapy on healthy
> cells.
> 
> Has anyone else heard this?
> 
> Jack Bell, bellstar@erols.com
> 
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> 
> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 02:00:20 EDT
> From: ROBBARISH@aol.com
> To: radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> Subject: Snoopy
> Message-ID: <15426819.2509f874@aol.com>
> 
> Fellow Radsafers:
> 
> The NP-2 Neutron Survey Meter is still manufactured by Nuclear Research
> Corp. 
> in Warrington, PA. 215-343-5900.  It got the nickname Snoopy from its 
> appearance in profile. With the large cylindrical black-polyethylene 
> moderator placed adjacent to a smaller grey-colored electronics package it
> 
> looks from the side like the profile of the head of Charlie Brown's dog in
> 
> the Peanuts cartoon strip, Foreign readers of this list may be unfamiliar 
> with his name, "Snoopy," but you can catch him floating down Broadway in
> the 
> next Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade (25 November 1999) on a news-service 
> satellite feed. 
> 
> Rob Barish
> robbarish@aol.com
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 05:50:13 -0400
> From: "Ruyter, David S." <David.Ruyter@pseg.com>
> To: "'radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu'" <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: RE: Area Postings for Beta
> Message-ID:
> <C7FA02EA050AD211AE170001FA68652F321038@njnbumx01.nbu.pseg.com>
> 
> NRC Question and Answer (Q&A) #74 states that for purposes of posting an
> area, the "dose equivalent" used in the definitions of RA, HRA and VHRA
> are
> all considered to be at a tissue depth of 1 cm (1000 mg/cm^2), i.e., DDE.
> Q&A information can be obtained from the NRC Web site:
> 
> http://www.nrc.gov/NRC/NMSS/HP/QA/index.html
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: x [mailto:netngatr@magnolia.net]
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 12:51 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Area Postings for Beta
> 
> 
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
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> 
> Fellow RADSAFERS,
> =20
> I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find exactly what I'm =
> looking for.  I know someone out there has the solution,  I haven't seen =
> a question yet go unanswered.
> 
> I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and references you may have =
> dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where DDE from =
> beta is not a concern.
> 
> Assume the only source of radiation is power plant components with mixed =
> fission/corrosion products and no significant gamma contribution to dose =
> rates.  The beta energies are low enough that DDE from beta is not =
> significant, documented in past studies.
> 
> 1.  Do you post 'Radiation Area' signs for those areas that exceed 5 =
> mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA signs for 100 mrem/hr beta =
> @30cm?  Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA and dose equivalent do =
> not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it seems clear to me that posting =
> is required.
> 
> 2.  Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped with =
> plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item, =
> but >100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.  Does anyone use a =
> "Beta High Radiation Area" posting or similar to ensure SDE or extremity =
> monitoring when handling such wrapped items?
> 
> 3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry apply? (Tech Specs =
> similar to RegGuide 8.38)
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Richard Sumrall
> HP Instructor
> Grand Gulf Nuclear Station
> rsumral@entergy.com
> 
> My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed or endorsed by my =
> employer.
> 
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Fellow RADSAFERS,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find =
> exactly what=20
> I'm looking for.&nbsp; I know someone out there has the solution,&nbsp; =
> I=20
> haven't seen a question yet go unanswered.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and =
> references you=20
> may have dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where =
> DDE from=20
> beta is not a concern.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Assume the only source of radiation =
> is power=20
> plant components with mixed fission/corrosion products and no =
> significant gamma=20
> contribution to dose rates.&nbsp; The beta energies are low enough that =
> DDE from=20
> beta is not significant, documented in past studies.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1.&nbsp; Do you post 'Radiation =
> Area' signs for=20
> those areas that exceed 5 mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA =
> signs for=20
> 100 mrem/hr beta @30cm?&nbsp; Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA =
> and dose=20
> equivalent do not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it</FONT><FONT=20
> color=3D#000000 size=3D2> seems clear to me that posting is =
> required.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>2.&nbsp; Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped =
> with=20
> plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item, =
> but=20
> &gt;100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.&nbsp; Does anyone =
> use a=20
> &quot;Beta High Radiation Area&quot; posting or similar to ensure SDE or =
> 
> extremity monitoring when handling such wrapped items?</DIV>
> <DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry =
> apply?=20
> (Tech Specs similar to RegGuide 8.38)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks for your help,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Richard Sumrall</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HP Instructor</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Grand Gulf Nuclear =
> Station</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:rsumral@entergy.com";>rsumral@entergy.com</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed =
> or=20
> endorsed by my employer.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> 
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 04:01:13 -0700
> From: "Robert Denne" <rdenne@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: Re: Area Postings for Beta
> Message-ID: <001001befb7b$cd44a610$0300000a@bdenne>
> 
> Anyone know of a similar reference for DOT?  I've always labeled and
> shipped
> based on the sum of all radiations involved.  This is particularly
> necessary
> in the case of shipping spent nuclear fuels (which of course not many of
> you
> are doing).  Also, the limits expressed in 49CFR173.443 (c) and (d) for
> returning vehicles back to service could be greatly affected by beta dose
> rates if used.  (I have always considered beta when meeting these limits.)
> 
> As a note to plant posting, I have also posted some areas around
> penetrations based on a sum of neutron and gamma.
> 
> Bob Denne
> ATG, Richland
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ruyter, David S. <David.Ruyter@pseg.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 2:54 AM
> Subject: RE: Area Postings for Beta
> 
> 
> > NRC Question and Answer (Q&A) #74 states that for purposes of posting an
> > area, the "dose equivalent" used in the definitions of RA, HRA and VHRA
> are
> > all considered to be at a tissue depth of 1 cm (1000 mg/cm^2), i.e.,
> DDE.
> > Q&A information can be obtained from the NRC Web site:
> >
> > http://www.nrc.gov/NRC/NMSS/HP/QA/index.html
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: x [mailto:netngatr@magnolia.net]
> > Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 12:51 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list
> > Subject: Area Postings for Beta
> >
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
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> >
> > Fellow RADSAFERS,
> > =20
> > I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find exactly what I'm =
> > looking for.  I know someone out there has the solution,  I haven't seen
> =
> > a question yet go unanswered.
> >
> > I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and references you may have
> =
> > dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where DDE from =
> > beta is not a concern.
> >
> > Assume the only source of radiation is power plant components with mixed
> =
> > fission/corrosion products and no significant gamma contribution to dose
> =
> > rates.  The beta energies are low enough that DDE from beta is not =
> > significant, documented in past studies.
> >
> > 1.  Do you post 'Radiation Area' signs for those areas that exceed 5 =
> > mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA signs for 100 mrem/hr beta =
> > @30cm?  Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA and dose equivalent do =
> > not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it seems clear to me that posting
> =
> > is required.
> >
> > 2.  Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped with =
> > plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item,
> =
> > but >100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.  Does anyone use a
> =
> > "Beta High Radiation Area" posting or similar to ensure SDE or extremity
> =
> > monitoring when handling such wrapped items?
> >
> > 3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry apply? (Tech Specs
> =
> > similar to RegGuide 8.38)
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> > Richard Sumrall
> > HP Instructor
> > Grand Gulf Nuclear Station
> > rsumral@entergy.com
> >
> > My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed or endorsed by my =
> > employer.
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> > exactly what=20
> > I'm looking for.&nbsp; I know someone out there has the solution,&nbsp;
> =
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> > haven't seen a question yet go unanswered.</FONT></DIV>
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> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and =
> > references you=20
> > may have dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where =
> > DDE from=20
> > beta is not a concern.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Assume the only source of radiation
> =
> > is power=20
> > plant components with mixed fission/corrosion products and no =
> > significant gamma=20
> > contribution to dose rates.&nbsp; The beta energies are low enough that
> =
> > DDE from=20
> > beta is not significant, documented in past studies.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1.&nbsp; Do you post 'Radiation =
> > Area' signs for=20
> > those areas that exceed 5 mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA =
> > signs for=20
> > 100 mrem/hr beta @30cm?&nbsp; Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA =
> > and dose=20
> > equivalent do not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it</FONT><FONT=20
> > color=3D#000000 size=3D2> seems clear to me that posting is =
> > required.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV>2.&nbsp; Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped
> =
> > with=20
> > plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item,
> =
> > but=20
> > &gt;100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.&nbsp; Does anyone =
> > use a=20
> > &quot;Beta High Radiation Area&quot; posting or similar to ensure SDE or
> =
> >
> > extremity monitoring when handling such wrapped items?</DIV>
> > <DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT size=3D2>3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry
> =
> > apply?=20
> > (Tech Specs similar to RegGuide 8.38)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks for your help,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Richard Sumrall</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HP Instructor</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Grand Gulf Nuclear =
> > Station</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20
> > href=3D"mailto:rsumral@entergy.com";>rsumral@entergy.com</A></FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:02:21 -0400
> From: Brent_Robinson@fpl.com
> To: radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> Subject: Re: Area Postings for Beta
> Message-ID: <852567E8.003C9C2F.00@fpl.com>
> 
> The NRC Questions and Answers provides the "answer" to your question ....
> available on the NRC internet site.
> The most applicable questions and answers are:
> 
> Question 221: Since the posting requirements are all in
> terms of deep dose equivalent, what requirements should be
> followed when posting for low energy beta radiation?
> 
> Answer: Unless the beta particle can deliver a dose at a
> issue depth of 1 cm, the area does not require posting as
> a radiation area (20.1902 (a)), high radiation area
> (20.1902 (b)), or very high radiation area (20.1902 (c));
> however, posting for airborne radioactivity area (20.1901
> (d)) and for areas or rooms in which licensed material is
> used or stored (20.1901 (e)) needs to be considered for
> beta emitters. See Questions and Answers 57, 74, and 85
> for more information. (Reference: 10 CFR 20.1902, 10 CFR
> 20.1901)
> 
> 
> Question 74: Dose rates are used to establish posting
> requirements for radiation areas, high radiation areas, and
> very high radiation areas. 10 CFR 20.1601 (a) (1),
> "Control of Access to High Radiation Areas," refers to a
> "deep-dose equivalent" in describing when a control device
> should be provided to reduce radiation doses below 0.1 rem
> in one hour, thus implying that the "dose equivalent" in
> the definition of a "high radiation area" is the "deep dose
> equivalent" [at a tissue depth of 1 cm (1000 mg/square
> cm)]. Are the "dose equivalent" in the definitions of
> "radiation area" and "high radiation area" and the "dose"
> in the definition of "very high radiation area" all
> considered to be at a tissue depth of 1 cm (1000 mg/square
> cm)?
> 
> Answer: Yes. In addition see Question 57. (References:
> 10 CFR 20.1003, 10 CFR 20.1601)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "x" <netngatr@magnolia.net> on 09/10/99 12:51:30 AM
> 
> Please respond to radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> 
> To:   Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> cc:    (bcc: Brent Robinson/Psl/Nuclear/FplNuc)
> Subject:  Area Postings for Beta
> 
> 
> 
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> Fellow RADSAFERS,
> =20
> I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find exactly what I'm =
> looking for.  I know someone out there has the solution,  I haven't seen =
> a question yet go unanswered.
> 
> I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and references you may have =
> dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where DDE from =
> beta is not a concern.
> 
> Assume the only source of radiation is power plant components with mixed =
> fission/corrosion products and no significant gamma contribution to dose =
> rates.  The beta energies are low enough that DDE from beta is not =
> significant, documented in past studies.
> 
> 1.  Do you post 'Radiation Area' signs for those areas that exceed 5 =
> mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA signs for 100 mrem/hr beta =
> @30cm?  Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA and dose equivalent do =
> not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it seems clear to me that posting =
> is required.
> 
> 2.  Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped with =
> plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item, =
> but >100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.  Does anyone use a =
> "Beta High Radiation Area" posting or similar to ensure SDE or extremity =
> monitoring when handling such wrapped items?
> 
> 3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry apply? (Tech Specs =
> similar to RegGuide 8.38)
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Richard Sumrall
> HP Instructor
> Grand Gulf Nuclear Station
> rsumral@entergy.com
> 
> My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed or endorsed by my =
> employer.
> 
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> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Fellow RADSAFERS,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find =
> exactly what=20
> I'm looking for.&nbsp; I know someone out there has the solution,&nbsp; =
> I=20
> haven't seen a question yet go unanswered.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and =
> references you=20
> may have dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where =
> DDE from=20
> beta is not a concern.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Assume the only source of radiation =
> is power=20
> plant components with mixed fission/corrosion products and no =
> significant gamma=20
> contribution to dose rates.&nbsp; The beta energies are low enough that =
> DDE from=20
> beta is not significant, documented in past studies.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1.&nbsp; Do you post 'Radiation =
> Area' signs for=20
> those areas that exceed 5 mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA =
> signs for=20
> 100 mrem/hr beta @30cm?&nbsp; Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA =
> and dose=20
> equivalent do not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it</FONT><FONT=20
> color=3D#000000 size=3D2> seems clear to me that posting is =
> required.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>2.&nbsp; Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped =
> with=20
> plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the item, =
> but=20
> &gt;100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.&nbsp; Does anyone =
> use a=20
> &quot;Beta High Radiation Area&quot; posting or similar to ensure SDE or =
> 
> extremity monitoring when handling such wrapped items?</DIV>
> <DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry =
> apply?=20
> (Tech Specs similar to RegGuide 8.38)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks for your help,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Richard Sumrall</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HP Instructor</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Grand Gulf Nuclear =
> Station</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20
> href=3D"mailto:rsumral@entergy.com";>rsumral@entergy.com</A></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed =
> or=20
> endorsed by my employer.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 07:17:43 -0400
> From: William V Lipton <liptonw@dteenergy.com>
> To: radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> Subject: Re: Suppliers for lead bricks
> Message-ID: <37D8E8D7.9F66DEF@dteenergy.com>
> 
> I would avoid the traditional, unencapsulated lead bricks, because of
> industrial hygiene concerns regarding the lead, and because of the
> potential
> for mixed waste generation if the lead becomes contaminated.  Definitely
> avoid lead shot.  If it spills, you'll have a difficult time recovering
> all
> of the shot - it can't be vacuumed up.  I recommend lead blankets, which
> are
> generally made of lead wool, in a form that prevents any lead mobility and
> protects the lead from contamination.  The vendor will generally quote the
> "lead equivalent" thickness.  Also, be sure that you have a disposal /
> recycling plan for when this is no longer needed; eg, an agreement from
> the
> vendor to take it back.  You may even be able to "rent" the shielding,
> which
> is probably the best way to avoid hazardous waste generation.
> 
> The opinions expressed are strictly mine.
> It's not about dose, it's about trust.
> 
> Bill Lipton
> liptonw@dteenergy.com
> 
> 
> "Frank E. Gallagher, III" wrote:
> 
> > Radsafers,
> >
> > After many years of buying lots of beta shielding, we finally have a
> > researcher who needs to purchase lead bricks for gamma shielding (for
> > 65Zn).  Can anyone provide contact information on suppliers for lead
> > bricks, preferably on the west coast (even better if they are in
> Southern
> > California).  Please forward your information directly to me at
> > fegallag@uci.edu rather than the entire list.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Frank E. Gallagher, III, CHP
> > Manager, Radiation Protection
> > Radiation Safety Officer
> > Environmental Health & Safety Office
> > 300 UT  ||  UCI Campus  ||  Zot Code 2725
> > (949) 824-6904  ||  Fax: (949) 824-8539
> > fegallag@uci.edu
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> 
> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:03:41 -0400
> From: "Redmond, Randy R. (RXQ) " <RXQ@ornl.gov>
> To: "'radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu'" <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> Subject: RE: Area Postings for Beta
> Message-ID:
> <811396C72B51D1119F8F0000F803D6D8092E05D7@exchange10.ctd.ornl.gov>
> 
> Is there a 10 CFR 835 questions and answers site?
> 
> Randy Redmond
> Lockheed Martin Energy Systems
> P.O. Box 2009
> Bldg.  9769,  MS 8081
> Oak Ridge, TN  37831-8081
> Email:  rxq@cosmail3.ctd.ornl.gov
> Phone:  423-574-5640
> Fax:  423-576-6047
> 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Brent_Robinson@fpl.com [SMTP:Brent_Robinson@fpl.com]
> 	Sent:	Friday, September 10, 1999 7:09 AM
> 	To:	Multiple recipients of list
> 	Subject:	Re: Area Postings for Beta
> 
> 	The NRC Questions and Answers provides the "answer" to your question
> ....
> 	available on the NRC internet site.
> 	The most applicable questions and answers are:
> 
> 	Question 221: Since the posting requirements are all in
> 	terms of deep dose equivalent, what requirements should be
> 	followed when posting for low energy beta radiation?
> 
> 	Answer: Unless the beta particle can deliver a dose at a
> 	issue depth of 1 cm, the area does not require posting as
> 	a radiation area (20.1902 (a)), high radiation area
> 	(20.1902 (b)), or very high radiation area (20.1902 (c));
> 	however, posting for airborne radioactivity area (20.1901
> 	(d)) and for areas or rooms in which licensed material is
> 	used or stored (20.1901 (e)) needs to be considered for
> 	beta emitters. See Questions and Answers 57, 74, and 85
> 	for more information. (Reference: 10 CFR 20.1902, 10 CFR
> 	20.1901)
> 
> 
> 	Question 74: Dose rates are used to establish posting
> 	requirements for radiation areas, high radiation areas, and
> 	very high radiation areas. 10 CFR 20.1601 (a) (1),
> 	"Control of Access to High Radiation Areas," refers to a
> 	"deep-dose equivalent" in describing when a control device
> 	should be provided to reduce radiation doses below 0.1 rem
> 	in one hour, thus implying that the "dose equivalent" in
> 	the definition of a "high radiation area" is the "deep dose
> 	equivalent" [at a tissue depth of 1 cm (1000 mg/square
> 	cm)]. Are the "dose equivalent" in the definitions of
> 	"radiation area" and "high radiation area" and the "dose"
> 	in the definition of "very high radiation area" all
> 	considered to be at a tissue depth of 1 cm (1000 mg/square
> 	cm)?
> 
> 	Answer: Yes. In addition see Question 57. (References:
> 	10 CFR 20.1003, 10 CFR 20.1601)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 	"x" <netngatr@magnolia.net> on 09/10/99 12:51:30 AM
> 
> 	Please respond to radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu
> 
> 	To:   Multiple recipients of list <radsafe@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu>
> 	cc:    (bcc: Brent Robinson/Psl/Nuclear/FplNuc)
> 	Subject:  Area Postings for Beta
> 
> 
> 
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> 	=20
> 	I've searched the RADSAFE archives and can't find exactly what I'm =
> 	looking for.  I know someone out there has the solution,  I haven't
> seen =
> 	a question yet go unanswered.
> 
> 	I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and references you may
> have =
> 	dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation where DDE
> from =
> 	beta is not a concern.
> 
> 	Assume the only source of radiation is power plant components with
> mixed =
> 	fission/corrosion products and no significant gamma contribution to
> dose =
> 	rates.  The beta energies are low enough that DDE from beta is not =
> 	significant, documented in past studies.
> 
> 	1.  Do you post 'Radiation Area' signs for those areas that exceed 5
> =
> 	mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or HRA signs for 100 mrem/hr
> beta =
> 	@30cm?  Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of RA and dose equivalent
> do =
> 	not differentiate between DDE and SDE, it seems clear to me that
> posting =
> 	is required.
> 
> 	2.  Assume these high levels of contamination are now wrapped with =
> 	plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the
> item, =
> 	but >100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.  Does anyone
> use a =
> 	"Beta High Radiation Area" posting or similar to ensure SDE or
> extremity =
> 	monitoring when handling such wrapped items?
> 
> 	3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA entry apply? (Tech
> Specs =
> 	similar to RegGuide 8.38)
> 
> 	Thanks for your help,
> 	Richard Sumrall
> 	HP Instructor
> 	Grand Gulf Nuclear Station
> 	rsumral@entergy.com
> 
> 	My personal questions and musings only, not reviewed or endorsed by
> my =
> 	employer.
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> find =
> 	exactly what=20
> 	I'm looking for.&nbsp; I know someone out there has the
> solution,&nbsp; =
> 	I=20
> 	haven't seen a question yet go unanswered.</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I would appreciate any opinions, practices, and
> =
> 	references you=20
> 	may have dealing with the posting of areas due to beta radiation
> where =
> 	DDE from=20
> 	beta is not a concern.</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Assume the only source of
> radiation =
> 	is power=20
> 	plant components with mixed fission/corrosion products and no =
> 	significant gamma=20
> 	contribution to dose rates.&nbsp; The beta energies are low enough
> that =
> 	DDE from=20
> 	beta is not significant, documented in past studies.</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>1.&nbsp; Do you post 'Radiation
> =
> 	Area' signs for=20
> 	those areas that exceed 5 mrem/hr beta @30 cm from the source, or
> HRA =
> 	signs for=20
> 	100 mrem/hr beta @30cm?&nbsp; Since the 10CFR20.1003 definition of
> RA =
> 	and dose=20
> 	equivalent do not differentiate between DDE and SDE,
> it</FONT><FONT=20
> 	color=3D#000000 size=3D2> seems clear to me that posting is =
> 	required.</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> 	<DIV>2.&nbsp; Assume these high levels of contamination are now
> wrapped =
> 	with=20
> 	plastic to preclude requiring protective clothing for handling the
> item, =
> 	but=20
> 	&gt;100 mrem/hr beta @30 cm penetrates the plastic.&nbsp; Does
> anyone =
> 	use a=20
> 	&quot;Beta High Radiation Area&quot; posting or similar to ensure
> SDE or =
> 
> 	extremity monitoring when handling such wrapped items?</DIV>
> 	<DIV></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT size=3D2>3. Do all of the normal requirements for a HRA
> entry =
> 	apply?=20
> 	(Tech Specs similar to RegGuide 8.38)</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanks for your
> help,</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Richard Sumrall</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>HP Instructor</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Grand Gulf Nuclear =
> 	Station</FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2><A=20
> 	
> href=3D"mailto:rsumral@entergy.com";>rsumral@entergy.com</A></FONT></DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> 	<DIV><FONT size=3D2>My personal questions and musings only, not
> reviewed =
> 	or=20
> 	endorsed by my employer.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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