RE: personrem/personSievert

[Anthony Barber <a.barber@qut.edu.au>]

(Tongue in Cheek)
I was under the impression that estrogen has a radioprotective effect.
Also, I seem to recall that the ICRP has both a "standard man" and a
"standard woman".
This would indicate that there could be some (in)/significant difference
between the concept of a man-Sv, woman-Sv and person-Sv.
Therefore in order to maintain the extremely high precision of data used in
the Health Physics arena, I formally propose that we designate an
international committe to investigate the three highly specific and useful
new quantities mentioned above.

Regards.
Anthony Barber
a.barber@qut.edu.au


At 01:50  29/09/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Ruth Weiner has placed at least three postings trying
>to convince "macho-prone" persons that there is
>nothing wrong in using persons-Sv instead of man-Sv.
>What's all the fuss about this? When it hits,
>radiation does not distinguish between gentlemen and
>ladies. I've seen the french speaking health
>physicists  use both personnes-Sv and hommes-Sv; the
>same for the spanish speaking HPs, personas-Sv and
>hombres-Sv, etc...
>So, next time let's suggest to the drafters to adapt
>to our times and use from now on persons-SV. Too bad
>for the unhappy ones!
>
>Shall we vote for this, too?
>
>Dr. Abderrachid Zitouni, PhD, M.Sc., male
>azittouni@yahoo.com
>
>--- "Weiner, Ruth" <rfweine@sandia.gov> wrote:
>> At the risk of being repetitious: we have used
>> "person-rem" and
>> "person-sievert" since 1989.  I checked a few
>> references, and BEIR V uses
>> this  also.  We used this terminology in the WIPP
>> compliance certification
>> application.  The NRC uses it, I believe (at list we
>> did as NRC
>> contractors).  I first heard the term in the late
>> 1980s, so I thought it was
>> general usage.   I do find it felicitous, though.
>> 
>> Ruth F. Weiner, Ph. D.
>> Sandia National Laboratories 
>> MS 0718, POB 5800
>> Albuquerque, NM 87185-0718
>> 505-844-4791; fax 505-844-0244
>> rfweine@sandia.gov
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Neon John [mailto:johngd@bellsouth.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:18 PM
>> To: Multiple recipients of list
>> Subject: Re: personrem/personSievert
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> William V Lipton wrote:
>> > 
>> > I am appalled by those whose "pronoun envy" makes
>> them see gender bias
>> where
>> > none exists.  Perhaps the following paragraph,
>> from "A Handbook for
>> > Scholars," by Mary-Clair van Leunen (NY, Alfred A.
>> Knopf 1978) will be of
>> > some comfort:
>> > 
>> 
>> Thank you posting that.  Given a person with a
>> penchant for
>> discriminating against someone based on how he or
>> she pees, I've
>> always wondered why certain people would think that
>> coercing that
>> person to change some verbiage would make any
>> difference.  I tend to
>> regard those who abuse "person" to either be
>> uneducated or unskilled
>> with the English language or both.  Just another of
>> life's little
>> irrationalities, I guess.
>> 
>> John
>> -- 
>> John De Armond
>> johngdSPAMNOT@bellsouth.net
>> http://neonjohn.4mg.com
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>> Cleveland, TN
>> "Bendin' Glass 'n Passin' Gas"
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