Correction! Re: Dirty bombs, LNT, and Removing False Fears

[hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net]

CORRECTION

My proposed study would be of NOT "0.1-1.0 R/hr" but 

"0.1 -1.0 millirad/hr from uranium ore under the mattress" or placebo

 

I apologize for the typo.



Howard Long



hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:

> 

> John and others concerned with radiation benefit/harm,

> 

> C reactive protein does surpass cholesterol as prognosticator of heart

> attack, stroke and death (recently flooding the media). It also has been

> related to clots in the very public Womens Health Initiative where

> women who took estrogen-progesterone had more clots vs placebo (but I

> believe non-smokers not, when data disclosed). In Crohn's Disease

> (terrible colitis) improvement also follows CRP decrease, and CRP

> appears to be a measure of inflammation, like a smoothing of fever

> readings. What do you think of CRP use as a quicker, more convenient

> measure to predict heart disease and death in a placebo study of 0.1 to

> 1.0 R/Hr from uranium ore under the mattress of persons with CRP>4

> mgm/L?

> 

> I believe over-regulation of low dose radiation is increasing clots and

> cancer in areas with < 0.1 cGy/year, like most of the USA coast,

> considering the lesser rates in areas with higher background. This

> belief is suggested by the numerous animal and human studies on

> Muckerheide's list and set up by Luckey's book on Radiation Hormesis.

> The $100B for "clean-up" taken from the economy is a much more credible

> cause of deaths than Goffman's LNT extrapolations beyond the data of

> cancer deaths from LDRadiation.

> 

> Best Wishes

> Howard Long

> 

> "Jacobus, John (NIH/OD/ORS)" wrote:

> >

> > Howard,

> > If we are going to have clear discussions, you are going to stop assuming

> > the I, and others on this list, understand all of your comments.  What do

> > you mean by "C reactive protein prognostic value = cholesterol) by

> > supplemental 0.5 to 5.0 rem/yr?"  What diseases are the regulations

> > perpetuating?

> >

> > -- John

> >

> > John P. Jacobus, MS

> > Certified Health Physicist

> > e-mail:  jenday1@msn.com

> >

> > The comments presented are mine and do not reflect the opinion of my

> > employer or spouse.

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: howard long [mailto:hlong@pacbell.net]

> > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 12:45 AM

> > To: Jacobus, John (NIH/OD/ORS); hflong@pacbell.net; Franz Schoenhofer

> > Cc: 'Rad Safety Institute'; RuthWeiner@AOL.COM; sjd@swcp.com;

> > radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> > Subject: Re: Dirty bombs, LNT, and Removing False Fears

> >

> > John Jacobus and HPs who would protect from both excess and deficient

> > radiation.

> >

> > It is not "homeopathic" to prevent cancer and other disease (like myocardial

> > infarction, considering recent C reactive protein prognostic value =

> > cholesterol) by supplemental 0.5 to 5.0 rem/yr.

> >

> > We are having these discussions because regulators like yourself have been

> > expensively perpetuating deficiency disease. Excessive safety precautions

> > damage public health and welfare.

> > The "precautionary principle" favored by anti-nucs requires that regulators

> > stop depriving underprivileged areas of radiant energy associated with

> > better health.

> > . . .

> > Howard Long MD MPH

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Jacobus, John (NIH/OD/ORS)" <jacobusj@ors.od.nih.gov>

> > To: <hflong@pacbell.net>; "Franz Schoenhofer" <franz.schoenhofer@CHELLO.AT>

> > Cc: "'Rad Safety Institute'" <radsafeinst@cableone.net>; "howard long"

> > <hlong@pacbell.net>; <RuthWeiner@AOL.COM>; <sjd@swcp.com>;

> > <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

> > Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:44 AM

> > Subject: RE: Dirty bombs, LNT, and Removing False Fears

> >

> > > Howard,

> > > As you know, ionizing radiation is already used in medicine, for diagonsis

> > > and therapy.  Whether it is a homeopathic drug is another still debatable.

> > > Otherwise, why would we be having these discussions?

> > >

> > > -- John

> > > John P. Jacobus, MS

> > > Certified Health Physicist

> > > e-mail:  jenday1@msn.com

> > >

> > >

> > > -----Original Message-----

> > > From: hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net

> > > [mailto:hflong@postoffice.pacbell.net]

> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:25 PM

> > > To: Franz Schoenhofer

> > > Cc: Jacobus, John (NIH/OD/ORS); 'Rad Safety Institute'; howard long;

> > > RuthWeiner@AOL.COM; sjd@swcp.com; radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu

> > > Subject: Dirty bombs, LNT, and Removing False Fears

> > >

> > >

> > > Franz and HPs liberated from LNT,

> > > Authoritarianism, traditional for Europe but not the USA, can manage

> > > with LNT - but not with individual choice for ionizing radiation

> > > benefit/harm. The Nobel Prize for 2002 in Economics was awarded for

> > > showing individual choices superior to expert choices - anathema to

> > > bureaucracy. Might a regulator have trouble understanding what may limit

> > > his authority?

> > >

> > > Radiation benefit from hormesis has been well demonstrated, as described

> > > on this chat box. My purpose is to advance its medical use, much as UV B

> > > was used for the psoriasis patient I just saw.

> > > . . .

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