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Re: Environmentalism & the US Constitution
Jerry, you may be right about the Constitutionality of most Federal
environmental laws. I'll have to check to be sure. If you're right,
the issue won't be religion, though. Simply stated, Congress does
not have the authority under the Constitution to pass many of the
laws enacted over the past 70 years. They justify a lot of laws by
improper invocation of the "necessary and proper" clause, and couch
the rest of them in terms that make anyone who objects look heartless.
At 15:13 -0700 6/9/03, Jerry Cohen wrote:
> Not only does environmentalism have the character of religion,
>IT IS A RELIGION!
>Very few of its precepts are based on science as we know it. It is largely
>based an faith and therefore qualifies as a religion. Although many, if not
>most, people consider themselves to be environmentalists, there are also
>many who, like myself, are infidels. Accordingly, I believe that those laws
>and regulations predicated on environmental beliefs (RCRA, CERCLA, ALARA,
>"NLTism", etc. etc.) are unconstitutional. Certainly environmentalists are
>entitled to their beliefs, but I don't think it is right that the government
>squander my tax money in support of religious beliefs to which I do not
>subscribe.
> Anyone care to join in a class action lawsuit???
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Syd Levine (AnaLog) <AnaLog@logwell.com>
>To: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
>Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:22 AM
>Subject: Re: The Bomb That Fell--was Gofman
>
>
>> Environmentalism has the character of religion, and it is exceedingly
>> difficult to win an argument over religion! The PCB hysterical still
>> persists, myths about Love Canal will not go away, even the governments
>own
>> definitive study on acid rain is ignored. And if an HP suggests low level
>> radiation ain't all that dangerous, he or she better duck...
>>
>> Syd H. Levine
>> AnaLog Services, Inc.
>> Phone: 270-276-5671
>> Telefax: 270-276-5588
>> E-mail: analog@logwell.com
>> URL: www.logwell.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steven Dapra" <sjd@swcp.com>
>> To: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 1:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: The Bomb That Fell--was Gofman
>>
>>
>> > June 8
>> >
>> > On June 7 Lewis Ricciuti (NiagaraNet) wrote (in part):
>> >
>> > "I was asked to supply a reference to the heart disease stats. I went to
>> > great lengths over the last several days to track it down and to get a
>> > comment and data from the source. I then placed it upon the board--but
>to
>> > no avail."
>> >
>> > COMMENT: You were not asked to supply a reference to heart disease
>> > statistics. You were asked to provide one or more citations to papers
>by
>> > John Gofman substantiating his assertion that exposure to radioactivity
>> > causes heart disease. (Barbara Hamrick and I have each made this
>> request.)
>> > A collection of heart disease statistics -- from a mere one year to
>boot
>> > -- does not prove anything.
>> >
>> > "I have studied throughout many nights and when I thought I did not
>> > understand something, I sought out references such as Gofman and
>others."
>> >
>> > COMMENT: Who are some of the "others"? The only authority you have
>> > invoked here is Gofman.
>> >
>> > "Since I was asked to offer a citation and not individual studies, I did
>> > what I was asked."
>> >
>> > COMMENT: You were asked to provide citation or links to actual studies,
>> > and if you read the thread you find that this is indeed what you were
>> asked
>> > to do.
>> >
>> > "But hey, what the heck do I know right? All contamination stopped
>> > globally after Love Canal. Did I say that Cesium137 was also found at LC
>> > along with the chemicals that Lois Gibbs was worried about? Didn't hear
>a
>> > lot about that, eh?"
>> >
>> > COMMENT: I don't know what you know. I know that no one is claiming
>> > contamination stopped globally after Love Canal. This rhetorical
>> assertion
>> > is absurd on the face of it. Where did you hear about the Cs-137? Can
>> you
>> > provide a citation to a primary source?
> > >
>> > Do you want to gain some credence at RADSAFE? If so, why not give
>> > forthight answers to the questions you have been asked.
>> >
>> > Steven Dapra
>> > sjd@swcp.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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