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Re: Environmentalism & the US Constitution



I would volunteer to be a named party without hesitation!



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Jerry Cohen" <jjcohen@prodigy.net>

To: "Syd Levine (AnaLog)" <AnaLog@logwell.com>;

<radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: Environmentalism & the US Constitution





>     Not only does environmentalism have the character of religion,

> IT IS A RELIGION!

> Very few of its precepts are based on science  as we know it. It is

largely

> based an faith and therefore qualifies as a religion. Although many, if

not

> most, people consider themselves to be environmentalists, there are also

> many who, like myself, are infidels. Accordingly, I believe that those

laws

> and regulations predicated on environmental beliefs (RCRA, CERCLA, ALARA,

> "NLTism", etc. etc.) are unconstitutional. Certainly environmentalists are

> entitled to their beliefs, but I don't think it is right that the

government

> squander my tax money  in support of religious beliefs to which I do not

> subscribe.

>     Anyone care to join in a class action lawsuit???

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Syd Levine (AnaLog) <AnaLog@logwell.com>

> To: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:22 AM

> Subject: Re: The Bomb That Fell--was Gofman

>

>

> > Environmentalism has the character of religion, and it is exceedingly

> > difficult to win an argument over religion!  The PCB hysterical still

> > persists, myths about Love Canal will not go away, even the governments

> own

> > definitive study on acid rain is ignored.  And if an HP suggests low

level

> > radiation ain't all that dangerous, he or she better duck...

> >

> > Syd H. Levine

> > AnaLog Services, Inc.

> > Phone:  270-276-5671

> > Telefax:  270-276-5588

> > E-mail:  analog@logwell.com

> > URL:  www.logwell.com

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Steven Dapra" <sjd@swcp.com>

> > To: <radsafe@list.vanderbilt.edu>

> > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 1:50 PM

> > Subject: Re: The Bomb That Fell--was Gofman

> >

> >

> > > June 8

> > >

> > > On June 7 Lewis Ricciuti (NiagaraNet) wrote (in part):

> > >

> > > "I was asked to supply a reference to the heart disease stats. I went

to

> > > great lengths over the last several days to track it down and to get a

> > > comment and data from the source. I then placed it upon the board--but

> to

> > > no avail."

> > >

> > > COMMENT:  You were not asked to supply a reference to heart disease

> > > statistics.  You were asked to provide one or more citations to papers

> by

> > > John Gofman substantiating his assertion that exposure to

radioactivity

> > > causes heart disease.  (Barbara Hamrick and I have each made this

> > request.)

> > >  A collection of heart disease statistics -- from a mere one year to

> boot

> > > -- does not prove anything.

> > >

> > > "I have studied throughout many nights and when I thought I did not

> > > understand something, I sought out references such as Gofman and

> others."

> > >

> > > COMMENT:  Who are some of the "others"?  The only authority you have

> > > invoked here is Gofman.

> > >

> > > "Since I was asked to offer a citation and not individual studies, I

did

> > > what I was asked."

> > >

> > > COMMENT:  You were asked to provide citation or links to actual

studies,

> > > and if you read the thread you find that this is indeed what you were

> > asked

> > > to do.

> > >

> > > "But hey, what the heck do I know right? All contamination stopped

> > > globally after Love Canal. Did I say that Cesium137 was also found at

LC

> > > along with the chemicals that Lois Gibbs was worried about? Didn't

hear

> a

> > > lot about that, eh?"

> > >

> > > COMMENT:  I don't know what you know.  I know that no one is claiming

> > > contamination stopped globally after Love Canal.  This rhetorical

> > assertion

> > > is absurd on the face of it.  Where did you hear about the Cs-137?

Can

> > you

> > > provide a citation to a primary source?

> > >

> > > Do you want to gain some credence at RADSAFE?  If so, why not give

> > > forthight answers to the questions you have been asked.

> > >

> > > Steven Dapra

> > > sjd@swcp.com

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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